Ok. It just looks the same to me other than the forced material design cues.
At what point do we stop caling it late stage capitalism and start calling it post capitalism? This is going beyond a captive market, at this point they’re outright making products no one wants and forcing it on us anyway by removing the alternatives. If late stage capitalism was the offer of shit or nothing this is escalating to just shoving a tube down our throats.
Im curious how many lemmy users have edge as their default browser.
I haven’t used a web browser made by Microsoft in 20 years, since I leaned how to create a web page. I saw how Microsoft was trying to take over the web by leveraging their monopoly to enforce their non-standards compliant crap.
I even took an A- over an A+ on that project because I refused to code a version of the site that would work better under IE. I just put a disclaimer at the bottom of the page saying that it was 100% standards compliant and if anyone experienced an issue viewing the page they should consider a upgrading their web browser.
I understand the Edge is supposed to be better than IE and more standards compliant or whatever, but given their history coupled with their anti-privacy practices, it makes any browser made by Microsoft a non starter for me.
Edge? Is that the app I used to install LibreWolf?
I don’t think I’ll ever consensually use Windows ever again.
I do quite bit of windows installs. I usually use edge once, to either set up chocolate or use ninite, and download sane stuff. Then I hide edge as much as possible.
winget install Mozilla.Firefox
No need to use edge at all.
My Linux Distro came with Firefox preinstalled, so I never had to use Edge either :)
Get ready for:
clicks hyperlink
Entire page is scraped and sent to copilot LLM to be processed. This causes a 1.5 second delay
Then after you get passed the cookies popup and promo popup, the whole page shifts and gets injected with copilot summarizations right as you were about to click on something else.
Work forces me to use edge, this’ll be fun
Then after you get passed the cookies popup and promo popup, the whole page shifts and gets injected with copilot summarizations right as you were about to click on something else.
you forgot ads. It’s going to get injected with ads
Work forces me to use edge, this’ll be fun
Those absolute monsters.
Imagine using Edge when other browsers exist.
I use it on my work PC and I have to admit that it’s not that bad…
“What is my purpose?” “You download Firefox”
winget install -e --id Mozilla.FirefoxI actually have Firefox also installed on that machine, but some (internal) sites work better in Edge, so I mostly use Edge on that PC.
Yeah, same.
It’s not terrible, but it feels like it’s slowly becoming worse as they add new garbage. And especially if they start forcing a bunch of AI shit I’m out.
But I think a lot of people brush it off outright without really using it. Or, because it’s Lemmy, anything that’s not linux = bad.
Actually Edge prior to this was a fine browser. Like a lightweight chrome. It was actually just good enough to not really make you want to install a new browser unless it was your daily driver personal PC.
Renaming it to CoPilot Browser in 3…2…
Windows -> MS copilotOS
Subscription-> MS copilot 365
Chatbot -> MS copilot chat
Office apps mished to one -> MS copilot work 365
Vs code -> Copilot Code
Visual Studio -> copilot studio
Azure -> MS Copilot Azure cloud
EntraID -> copilot Access
ActiveDirectory -> copilot Business manager
Visio -> copilot processes
Github -> copilot repo management (CoRaMa)
Intune -> ms copilot manage
Planner -> copilot task management plan
Teams -> copilot communication manager
Linkedin -> ms management ads copilot🧐 wonky enough?
It’s Copilot all the way down.
or, just copilot
When do they rename Edge to Copilot Explorer. :)
Copilot Firefox Downloader
Internet Copilot
How will this one be called? Also Copilot? Slopilot?
Microsoft 365 Copilot Edge Pro Express Home Edition with Teams for Friends and Family 2027.
People will still use it once to download another browser.
winget install Mozilla.Firefox winget install Google.Chromecurl -L -o ubuntu.iso https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-22.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
Yeah. This is better.
I have a USB-bootable thumbdrive with Ubuntu 24 on it. Two home systems down, two to go.
My chief concern is that this wave of enshitifiation will eventually make it to Microsoft’s security support. Historically, at least recently, the weekly updates and response to critical vulnerabilities and virus scanning have been pretty good. But now that they’re attacking their own flagship products - Office and Windows itself - I think it’s only a matter of time before they fumble Windows security in a big way.
I’ll also predict that Non-pro Windows will eventually be “free” (as in beer), but will be useless without a live internet connection and cloud services. So now really is the time to switch. IMO, all the money points in that direction.
My chief concern is that this wave of enshitifiation will eventually make it to Microsoft’s security support.
That and their general quality control. It’s already been happening. Their updates and new products have been having some serious issues with a lot more frequency over the last year. At least that’s the strong impression I have. Oh, here’s an article also calling this out: https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/08/microsoft_lacks_quality_control/ - apparently they may have started going down this path over a decade ago, but it seems to have accelerated since they started using Gen AI.
Newest post from Cory Doctorow is about exactly this https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/06/1000x-liability/#graceful-failure-modes
Thanks! I saw this linked on Mastodon but haven’t read it yet.
Dude, that was a GOOD read. It’s been a growing problem, before AI and entirely due to the infinite growth forced on companies by shareholder value.
I code, usually for utility or personal projects. I’m surprised how many software devs have shit code. It’s not that their code doesn’t work, they wouldn’t have a job without it. No, it works well for now, until it needs to be maintained or updated, usually after the sloppy author is gone, and then it’s a shit show. Suddenly all the corners the last guy cut need to be added in somehow, with the whole thing expanded to scope, and the code becomes unworkable, at worst, requiring a complete rewrite, or at best turns into spaghetti code that leads to the shit we have in our aging early adopters.
My biggest fear, and one that is not talked about in the article, is that we won’t have any asbestos removers in the future. Generative AI is being fed it’s own excrement and that’s being leveraged as working code to new coders. When this really becomes a liability we won’t have many left that can fix or figure out the fix cause it will have obfuscated all the usable info.
Out of curiosity, why does everyone always go for Ubuntu in posts like this? I’ve always hated that distro; all my machines run Fedora instead. IMO Fedora with KDE is way better than Ubuntu with Gnome in terms of usability for people switching over from Windows, but maybe I’m just biased since I’m already super familiar with Linux
I’m also a Fedora KDE user and I agree with you. The only real gripe I have with it is that if you don’t know about the full version of RPM Fusion, you’ll get frustrated that certain things are missing or don’t work right, and the GUI button to enable third-party repos after installation isn’t enough. I personally just skip that button and enable the full version following the directions on their site and then use Discover to enable Flathub.
I run Zorin OS 18 on my desktop. I just commented Ubuntu since more people would understand the comments.
Also, for Surface tablets, I believe Ubuntu is the best option for touchscreen support.
Fair enough, thanks for responding
It took me way more than a decade of using Ubuntu before I got to a point of preferring Fedora, in spite of frequent distro hopping in periods when I was bored.
I think Fedora has gotten better in the last few years, but for me it also feels a bit more cold and unwelcoming maybe? Dunno, but I was always happy with Ubuntu until some really obscure dependencies got into conflict and I had to change things up. Canonical might not be the absolute best, but neither are Red Hat.
Use curl.exe otherwise you might invoke the default powershell alias curl which has different syntax (just learned of this here somewhere some time ago in a meme)
A version of Ubuntu that’s nearly 4 years old?
The link is no longer working. I just needed a direct link to make the point that’s it. Recent versions have buttons to download with script.
Ubuntu doesn’t respect the spirit of free open-source software. They keep jamming stuff into their distro to increase their control. There are plenty of alternatives. (E.g. Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora or Mint for general-purpose distros.)
I refuse to use or recommend American distros.
I can confirm Debian 13 works great for newbies.
It’ll just be called Microsoft Copilot.
None of you are in an abusive relationship with the cruel mistress that is Windows and her accursed family and it shows.
Personally I’m excited for when they rerelease regedit as Windows Copilot, MFS as (Co)Pilot, and Purble Place as Copilot Kids Demo.
There was an idea mooted over on Mastodon, that Flight Sim will be renamed Copilot Copilot. Rolls off the tongue.
There was an idea tooted over on Mastodon
& Knuckles
Featuring Dante From The Devil May Cry Series
New Funky Mode
Gotta go… In a different direction?
Up and down and all around
with Teams for Friends and Family
OMFG I’m crying
You forgot the (classic)
Sounds like it comes with a free trial of Norton.
Slodge?
Microsoft Copilot App (zero indication it’s web)
So just like M365 Copilot (actual name for the office app).
Edge Copilot 365
They tack 365 on every product for no reason.
Internet Copilot One X.
Slo-pilot or Slop-a-lot works for me.
Explorer. Always has been.
M$ has done more to convince people that AI is bullshit than anyone else and I just want to thank them for their hard work.
“Seriuosly unpopular” and the base for that claim is a reddit post with 300 upvotes. Don’t get me wrong, fuck microslop and edge, but this title could not be more sensationalistic.
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I’m really loving this new Microslop name.
Also… looks like someone bought www.microslop.com and redirected to their own site: https://www.philipncohen.com/
Ugh, that sucks. That domain could’ve been put to good satirical use.
Hopefully they’re just setting that up and in the meantime did this.
I would have bought it for that purpose if it was available.
“Sir, a second slop has hit production”
I hate Microsoft edge with a burning passion, and Microslop tries to force me to use it when I click any link from Outlook
Your tools actively make my job HARDER
It is so obnoxious. Fuck Microsoft, fuck Edge, and fuck Outlook.
It does this from Outlook on android too. It’s horrid
Settings > Open links in
“AI-powered browser” Who exactly do these marketing people think will be impressed by that? Is it supposed to appeal to hardcore tech people? Non-techies?Will literally anyone be swayed by that blurb?
Certainly not me or you.
Thanks, you’re the hero we need in these dark times
Bless you, hero
Edge was fine, i use it at work to further separate personal use from work use further. It’s vertical tabs are top tier and being able to have the dev tools have vertical tabs is also a massive plots for productivity. However the latter is getting removed for seemingly no reason and once that’s gone there’s no boon to using edge anymore and I’ll just use a separate Firefox profile or use some chromium browser for work.
Firefox vertical tabs are better IMO. At least you can close them when minimized, which Edge cannot.
Firefox has tree style tabs add-on. Gamechanger
It’s built into Firefox now.
really? able to nest nultiple times etc?
I’m not sure about nesting, but Containers works well with them.
Edge was fine
When? it always sucked monkey balls… when MS finally gave up and turned Edge into basically chrome with an ugly theme, it was a leap forward… but they soon enshitified it so bad it quickly became a complete bloated mess
As a base browser. I think edge is better than standard Chrome if you want Chromium.
why? (if you don’t mind me asking)
I find it slower than chromium with a ton of oddly organized settings
It’s developers tools, as is is better than chromes.
And like i said in my original comment it’s vertical tabs are one of the best implementations out there at the moment.
It has sensible tab folder features which I usually don’t use in other browsers but in edge they’re great.
It also has what they call workspaces that keeps the exact state of your tabs across signed in instances if the browser irregardless of device (it even syncs in real-time - which has helped me in times at work when i can remote into multiple different devices on our network).
Granted i can understand on personal devices the signed in workspaces may sound awful to most but on a device where i already have to be signed in to a Microsoft account for work anyway, it’s a moot point for me. My work laptop is the only windows device i have in the house if that’s worth any merit. Windows is awful, getting worse by the way and edge will soon be following suit so even though I’m praising it in its current state, I can’t see me continuing to do so for much longer.
Oh didn’t know Edge has workspace that functions similar to Firefox multi container. Not that I am going to change to Edge, but it’s still neat.
Are the vertical tabs better than Vivaldi? If tabs are the metric, Vivaldi is better.
My primary is Firefox because fuck chrome, but if I had to compare Edge to other chromium implementations I would go with Vivaldi.
Vivaldi is unusable for me because you can’t have the bookmarks bar only show on the new tab screen, and they seem unwilling to add that in to save face in a few discussions they’ve had about that feature, it’s weird.
My primary is Firefox too by the way.
