Pro level shitpost.
Missing nsfw tag for memetic agent with acute physiological aneurism vector.
Nevertheless, excellent shitpost.
Capitalist’s workers should rally behind such a great example.We should troll them like this a LOT more.
Accusing people of being communist is just fun as well. It is not all that inaccurate with our political leaders either.
The president is taking stock in companies and taking payoffs from companies. Because he’s a fucking communist.
I wish I could see how many of those mouthbreathers actually took this bait.
The post is satire/trolling.
I was interested, so I found the original post, and the mods there removed all the comments, so you can’t see the people falling for it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/iig9uh/is_my_boss_a_communist/
Gonna start calling landlords “socialists”, see what happens
Boy, conservatives sure love their free speech.
They really do. Some speech is more free than others.
This is suspiciously close to the famous “some are more equal than others” from my favorite book, <removed by moderator>.
I got banned from there years ago for asking a question in a comment.
They are the most banned happy I have heard of. They know how susceptible the audience is to manipulation so they won’t abide any counter manipulation.
well that’s your first mistake. Only communists question stuff.
Comes up empty for me
So weird. When I click on the link, it also comes up empty. But if I replace
redditwithrevedditin the original url, it works.Here’s a screen grab.
Of course this isn’t socialism. It is plain and simple capitalism.
Have Americans been propagandised beyond help?
This is clearly a rage bait post for conservatives lol
This is clearly a bait post in /r/conservative. The author knows exactly what they were doing, lol.
Also yes
Not in this specific instance at least
a surprising proportion at least
Way too many comments from people taking this at face value. This is almost formulaic bait.
Between LLM brain rot and COVID, we lost a lot of collective brain power in the last few years
Satire not bait.
Now now, it might be the first time on the internet for some of these commenters, who have somehow stumbled on Lemmy as the first place they visited.
May god have mercy with their souls
This has to be a troll.
95% sure is trolling. Yet, I’m also 100% sure a lot of those buffoons will not notice.
Not many smart people left on the sub. Just yes-men.
They’ve done so many purges in /r/conservative that it’s basically communism
I really don’t think there were many smart conservative redditors to begin with.
It was:
I did the math
Followed by a logical conclusion that sold this as trolling to me
Post up for 2 minutes, no votes shown. Definitely a troll post and probably screencapped by whoever made it before it was removed.
Concerned-antocommie is such a troll alt username
My thoughts as well, surely there’s no way.
But… America.
It’s true, but I feel like the dumb ones wouldn’t have bothered to read Animal Farm.
It’s a pretty common assigned reading in schools these days
Maybe Atlas Shrugged
It was going great until “I’ve come to the conclusion…” Gave the whole game away.
Most likely, since he uses communism, socialism, and Marxism interchangeably
This is really bad for conservative marxist bait ngl
No right winger would think that. They like their hierarchies, their classes of people, and some being worth more than others so there is someone to punch down.
Just so long as they are at least one level up. It is why they like to demonize non whites because it’s easy and let’s the rubes be content to sit at the bottom.
“You have to work your way up! If your stuck at the bottom, it is because you didnt pull your bootstraps hard enough!”
Back in 2016,my BIL told me, “I could be as rich as Trump, I just don’t want to work that hard.”
…Still lived with his parents at 40.
I could also be rich as trump if… my daddy was a wealthy slumlord.
This guy/gal’s got the right idea. Turns out conservatives agree with a lot of leftist ideas when you don’t use their Boogeyman trigger words.
I’ve been saying that for decades but a lot of marxists are more into the aesthetics of marxism than the actual goals.
More into Groucho than Karl?
Then again, Groucho did say something like ‘I would never want to join a club that would admit me as a member.’, so perhaps not.
I mean, IIRC Karl claimed to not be a marxist. Guess it runs in the family.
After the programme was agreed, however, a clash arose between Marx and his French supporters arose over the purpose of the minimum section. Whereas Marx saw this as a practical means of agitation around demands that were achievable within the framework of capitalism, Guesde took a very different view: “Discounting the possibility of obtaining these reforms from the bourgeoisie, Guesde regarded them not as a practical programme of struggle, but simply … as bait with which to lure the workers from Radicalism.” The rejection of these reforms would, Guesde believed, “free the proletariat of its last reformist illusions and convince it of the impossibility of avoiding a workers ’89.” Accusing Guesde and Lafargue of “revolutionary phrase-mongering” and of denying the value of reformist struggles, Marx made his famous remark that, if their politics represented Marxism, “ce qu’il y a de certain c’est que moi, je ne suis pas Marxiste” (“what is certain is that I myself am not a Marxist”).
marxists are more into the aesthetics of marxism
Sort of a selection bias.
“The only Marxists I ever see are the ones advertising themselves” implies you might not be looking very hard
Funny how you quoted them twice yet neither one is actually a quote
I’d be a Marxist if only I had the money they always seem to have laying around.
would have been better to not use the word “unify”. too transparent.
Even ‘labor’ is a bit of a giveaway, IMO. Still funny tho
Form an employee company
🤣 This has to be a secret leftist trolling the right. No way someone actually think this is “communism”.
When I start my start-up, at some point fucking everyone will get paid the same in proportion to overall company performance. From the cleaning staff to the highest level management fuckers. Because each and everyone is responsible for and contributes to the company’s success.
This can work.
For example: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51332811Isn’t this just capitalism? The value of my labor is independent from how well your company performs. I don’t give a fuck about competitors, supply chain issues and other bullshit, I should be compensated for my time, effort, and knowledge alone.
Problem is that you are usually not getting much of the company’s profit share since the ones higher up the hierarchy put most of the profits into their own pockets while virtually exploiting the labor of others. So you could actually benefit from a “everyone get’s the same amount” policy.
That sounds fine - the problem is just… why leave that up to the bosses?
Yupp. I am also thinking about making the company owned by the employees in the long run. Something like a cooperative.
Or to be extra based, distribute accoring to people’s socially-necessary labour-time. E.g. pay the 8hr-day person 20% more than the 6hr-day one. Assuming people’s productivity is average, which is most often the case.
E.g. pay the 8hr-day person 20% more than the 6hr-day one.
The problem with that is you’re going to have a hard time actually telling whether the 8hr-day people is actually really doing more than the 6hr-day people.
You just don’t do that. You assume everyone is doing avg productivity for their job. Otherwise you enter the fools errand of performance measurements and evaluation. Assume avg productivity, pay the person who wants to spend 5 days a week proportionally more than the person spending 4 days a week. Or 8hrs vs 6hrs, and so on. Only if you want to allow for some poeple to work more than others. Maybe you don’t. Maybe we shouldn’t.
You assume everyone is doing avg productivity for their job.
On average, people only manage about 4hrs of productivity on any given day - no matter whether you are paying them for 6hrs or 8hrs.
You’re essentially creating conditions for people who just sit around and pretend to work - while the people who cannot spend 8hrs per day at the workplace (like working mothers, for instance) start getting miffed because they can’t access the extra “sitting-around-and-doing-nothing” money.
Otherwise you enter the fools errand of performance measurements and evaluation
You’re going to have to measure and evaluate something. In my experience, corporations loves measuring all the wrong things. They can usually barely even define what “performance” means, never mind measure it correctly.
It’s not evaluation that’s the problem… it’s the people deciding what should be evaluated that’s almost always the problem.
I can see a counter-argument that it would create an incencitive to spend more time where it could be cut down and, also, wiring worker’s paychecks to a sometimes arbitrary and flowing value. Like, you don’t need to clean the outdoors property every day, it depends on the weather, and there I can see paying a stable wage reserving person’s time and paying for it in case I need to call them even if it’s sunny and they don’t actually need to go. As long as they do their job well, who cares. They or a company can reinvest in better tools making their actual worktime even shorter or more comfortable, like, jumping from a manual gardening tools to an automated lawnmower, while not punishing them for working less. Some kinds of labor doesn’t even necessitate being on site, as it was shown by covid, and we see a lot of ideas to cut down on wages due to LLM assistance.
I’m also puzzled about how uneven my work from day to day, and I’d probably prefer to give up on measuring and comparing that at all, defaulting to some lively wage and pulling enough of myself to keep the business afloat. If the idea of a guy over us is in having similar stakes in the business and collectively voting for changes, I see it’s possible to set a fair compensation and keep people interested in the end results.
I am also thinking about this in terms of reserving people’s time. If people decide to take longer to do stuff there’s little you can do to counter that without going down the arduous path of performance metrics, monitoring and evaluations. People can tweak their productivity over 955 regular working schedules where tasks just take longer and project comoletion times stretch further. They just take more free time within the regular schedule. So I suggest time-proportional pay only under the condition where we decide to let some people reserve more of their time to this activity of doing work. But perhaps we don’t want that as there are other side effects too.
LOAO
