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This is the first I’ve heard of piefed, and so I’m just browsing the desktop site. It’s kinda jank, to be honest.
I looked at it when it came out. Seems ok to me, but there wasn’t a reason to migrate from Lemmy.
It has polls, it supports push notifications so phone apps can immediately tell you about notifications, you can write remarks about users that will be shown to you only next to the user’s name, and what I actually find the biggest usability improvement is that I can turn on notifications for any post or any community so that if anyone writes anything to that community, I get a notification. That’s awesome with groups that get like one post every two weeks but where those few posts are all very interesting!
Some people also like that you can group a bunch of communities into one feed that you can view as if they were together just one community. Meaning, if there are copies of the same community on five instances, you can opt to merge their content when viewed from your user account.
In what way does it feel jank, in your opinion?
I’ve personally been happy with it, and I would guess the maintainers are used to the way it works and might be blind to things you notice! But, there’s a real good chance that if you can point out specific details that could be improved, they indeed will be improved. At least they’ve done awesome job handling suggestions I’ve made!
Show me 1 non-twat piefed poster and I’ll make an account
You are winning the race to be a lesser known reddit, congrats
I have a piefed account and maybe someone can tell me if I’m doing something wrong, , an instance thing, or if it’s a piefed thing, or a weird glitch, but I stopped using it because it kept force-following hundreds of communities for me. When I unsubscribed it would instantly re-subscribe me to them and then add more random communities. I like to be able to scroll by both all to view new stuff but also subscribed and just see stuff I’m interested in, not have my subscribed communities be hundreds of communities with tons of topics I have absolutely no interest in. It was things like niche sports teams, communities for towns on the other side of the globe from me, or stuff like hobbies or TV shows I’ve no interest in. There was no way to filter it to show things I actually cared about. I haven’t logged in in months because I got so frustrated. I feel like an old person who can’t figure out this new fangled tech. I’m 99% sure I wasn’t hacked either because I could hit unsubscribe, refresh, refresh again, and it would re-subscribe.
Okay, so you’re the second user who has mentioned this today. You’re right in my opinion.
I’ve specifically directly bought this up in conversations about this. Don’t worry. I don’t think the auto-subscribing to all the communities in a topic is a good idea.
A new piefed.social user is presented with topics that they select an interest in. Each topic is a feed made by site admins, with specific communities in them. Some feeds can be quite large. It currently auto-subscribes you to each community in a feed. So if you pick multiple interests, you can get a very large subscription list. I will forward this on to emphasise my point.
Auto subscription at sign up might be good, but it should let users unsubscribe after that
Lemmy is fine though what are you on about
And my guy has almost 25 points
Well, it works. But Piefed is developing more features quicker atm.
So we should all just jump? Meh. Lemmy 1.0 is releasing soon which should help quite a bit.
I vote use both
Not necessarely that’s the beauty of the fediverse. You can enjoy PieFed growth and all it’s content but stick on Lemmy if you don’t feel like moving.
No we are a long way off from a 1.0 release yet.
Lemmy still has a bigger user base doesn’t it?
Well yes, but you can interact with lemmy on piefed.
If it’s true It’s the main reason to not even think to use piefed.
Not if you want to make use of some of Piefeds tools.
Doesn’t matter to me, I’m still using the old reddit theme on .world and that’s what I want to keep using.
Piefed or Lemmy, it’s the same content, so you’re arguing about either UI or philosophical differences (Lemmy devs are tankies or whatever).
I’d consider Piefed if they had an old reddit UI available, but that’s never gonna happen and I absolutely cannot stand either Lemmy’s or Piefed’s UI.
Well no, it’s not just UI. Piefed has more features than Lemmy right now.
Fair enough if you’re tethered to lemmy due to an old-reddit style UI, but it’s not purely rooted in UI and ideology.
Yeah, sorry you’re right, like being able to get feeds for small communities, and that sort of thing. But all the actual content is the same, is what I meant. Piefed doesn’t provide any content that you can’t get on Lemmy, just a different way to view it (UI) and organize it (features).
Okay but it is developed by authoritarian communists. I mean it doesn’t have to annoy you, but it definitely annoys me.
I don’t like the devs but at the same time it’s not like they wield much power over users outside of the flagship instance, lemmy.ml. That’s the nice thing about decentralized FOSS social media. Can even make a fork if they ever did something unpopular.
Chill its a meme
Oof. Lemmy as a decrepit grandma is a bit unkind.
Without their pioneering work in the early quiet days and absorbing the first wave of reddit refugees, PieFed wouldn’t have anything to glom onto and build from so there is a symbiosis going on.
The grandma was an exceptionally agile and good-looking woman in her youth, indeed! She was also pioneering a lot of things the following generations are now enjoying! But she’s nevertheless of the previous generation now.
Two uppies are enough. I made one person smile/chuckle/think/poo in terror/hungry. In terms of bad fables “it made a difference to that one”
If you got two up votes, I’d wager at least twenty people also viewed your content without down voting. That’s a big win.
I saw what makes you cheers.
never did care for piefed, none of the features it’s added so far are particularly appealing to me
Keeping an eye on smaller communities thanks to personal feeds is nice.
the latest feature I’ve found is that when an admin deletes your account on their end it produces a ‘not found’ page, overall the software seems much better at filtering out dissent- ironic considering a primary complaint they have is ‘authoritarian developers’ influencing the software in some nebulous way
I’m quite sure it’s similar on Lemmy: if an admin purges a user, their profile won’t be accessible anymore
the way it works on lemmy there’s still some transparency, for example you can still see that the account existed, and has had posts removed by mod so you can figure out the context lemmy has it’s own issues too, like the fact that you can’t see the removed posts; iirc they’re planning to change that.
in fact on piefed, if you wanted to review the modlog to see who has been getting account deleted, it doesn’t let you see beyond page 1
the next button resets the search
Was that account purged or banned? IIRC there’s a difference, and purged accounts would show ab empty profile without any posts
Good point about the modlog page 2, @[email protected] or @[email protected] can this be fixed quickly? If not I’ll make a Codeberg issue
Every single one of their posts says ‘removed by mod’ with nothing in the comment moderation history. As far as I know if they were just banned with the posts manually removed you would still be able to reveal the comment moderation history.
There are two different actions
- ban from site
- purge a user
The documentation explains the difference
Ban from site Completely bans the account, so it cannot log in or interact at all. There is also an option to remove all existing posts.
Purge user Completely delete the user, including all posts and uploaded media. Use with caution.
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/04-moderation.html?highlight=purge#how-to-moderate
I think the Lemmy user you are referring to above got banned, and their posts got removed as the sub-action, but they did not get purge.
Your account got purged on the Piefed instance you linked above.
Now obviously as you can guess it’s difficult to find an example of a purged account on a Lemmy instance as there’s no filter for that kind of actions in the modlog.
the next button resets the search
For me, when I clicked “next” it instead just changed from local -> to all. This seems more like a bug rather than anything deliberate.
looks like a broken ui, I can manually input the page number to navigate it, but what a pain in the ass to use, wasn’t saying it was deliberate.
The modlog leaves a lot to be desired, and piefed mod actions don’t even appear on lemmy instances right now. Mind you, the way Lemmy handles instance bans is also not great either. I have noted this.
I looked into making yet another account, this time on piefed, but didn’t like the automatic blocking of a few communities. Yeah, I’m a massive hypocrite because I argued hard for the defederation of maga.place from sh.itjust.works, but since coming to lemmy.today I don’t like the idea of automatic defederation where the users don’t have input.
Are there any piefed instances that don’t block anything? Or, is there a way for me to befriend everyone on my account?
Check instance federation/block of piefed.zip
What if I want to get to know the good people of cum.salon, or yggdrasil…
spoiler
No LGBTQ. Period. No homosexuality. No men who think they’re women or women who think they’re men. No made up genders. That goes for both users and posted content. For the record, traps are gay and will not be tolerated.
I stand 100% corrected.
Thank you.
There’s something so funny to me about just super blatant bigotry. Because this sounds unhinged to anyone with even a shred of decency.
Immediately followed by a rule against ‘miscegenation’. That’s one to add to our list…
Maybe I’m being picky but I see no reasons for defederation listed on that page. It’d be helpful information to have
piefed.zip is likely the one that doesn’t block anything if it is modelled after lemmy.zip here.
Disclaimer: I checked into piefed shit again and this unexpectedly turned into a whole thing.
I found this here https://join.piefed.social/features/ :
Default Blocks – Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and Nazi instances are blocked out of the box.
Does that mean they can’t be unblocked? And now I’m seeing:
Authoritarian Inoculation – Feature to reduce the impact of authoritarian propaganda.
That gave me pause, not because I want to promote authoritarian propaganda, but I’m concerned about someone else deciding what’s authoritarian.
And:
Low Reputation Indicator – Identifies consistently downvoted users.
This feels like karma. I’m alright with rule-breaking stuff getting deleted and people getting banned for bad behavior, but I don’t think people should be flagged for consistently going against the popular narrative. If they’re being assholes users can report them.
I found this here https://join.piefed.social/features/ :
Note how that link points to PieFed.social. Yes, those are defederated at the instance level, so a user cannot work around that - Lemmy defederation works the same way. However, PieFed.zip is a separate instance from PieFed.socual, and does not defederate from much at all.
Low Reputation Indicator
I find that feature very helpful. It’s merely a visual indicator placed next to the username, which is very different than the software making decisions for me on what content to show or not, and that indicator helps clue me in that responding to e.g. an argumentative person is unlikely to enhance my day. Also while I don’t recall the details on how it is set, imagine if you will that someone receives 10x more downvotes total than upvotes. Such an account is usually a troll. Most people get downvotes occasionally, but that would not trigger the indicator to be shown (and again, even if it somehow did, it’s just a visual icon, not a block or anything).
Lemmy is FAR more known for authoritative censorship than PieFed. Particularly those instances mentioned like hexbear and the infamous lemmy.ml where you cannot criticize Russia, China, or North Korea without being banned from every community on the entire instance including those you’ve never even heard of.
The link doesn’t point to the instance, that’s the main blog/info site for piefed.
Either way my question about blocking was answered, now I know the block list isn’t baked into piefed itself.
I don’t agree with the low rep feature. There are rules, reporting and blocking available moderate communities. If one user doesn’t want to interact with another for non-rulebreaking reasons, they can block them, tag them, or just not respond. This just opens up new reasons to manipulate votes and downvote unpopular opinions.
I’m on Lemmy.Today, so I disagree that it’s authoritative. This instance doesn’t block/isn’t blocked by any instance, and allows all opinions that aren’t bigoted or insulting. There’s a whole spectrum of vibes across the instances but there’s nothing authoritative about the Lemmy ground rules.
Yeah, I think OpenStars means the ruleset in lemmy.ml which is the equivalent instance to lemmy as piefed.social is to piefed.
However hypothetically authoritarian piefed.social might become, it doesn’t reflect on the piefed software itself necessarily.
I doubt that a normal user would get themselves flagged with the low rep icon though. Even receiving twice as many, triple as many, quadruple or quintuple as many downvotes as upvotes would not do it. To receive ten times as many downvotes as upvotes is someone who is entirely ignoring the consent of users to have to read their
crapahem “offered opinions”. That is Reddit-level hostility there, and something that your average conscientious Threadiverse participant will never experience - except unfortunately on the receiving end, as some very few people seem to take great pleasure in absolutely flaunting the rules in every community that they visit.It would also take a MASSIVE vote-altering campaign to counteract that effect. Something which if only due to its sheer scale might be noticed. And at that point it would be easier to create a new Lemmy account - some instances require nothing to make that happen - or even spin up a new instance in order to skirt the effects of downvoting.
In short, reputation is a part of the normal human set of interactions. PieFed acknowledges that and exceedingly gently places an icon next to the usernames of the most egregious offenders. I for one do not think that is a bad thing, even on purely theoretical grounds. We aren’t trying to recreate a new 4chan here (we already have Hexbear for that - seriously! 😐)
Skavau already covered the point about lemmy.ml being authoritative whereas Lemmy.today is not (in general there are 4 well-known tankie authoritarian instances and Lemmy.today is not one of those:-).
2·27 minutes ago'grad, .ml, and hexbear. What’s the fourth?
… Surely not db0?
Edit: Apparently, this comment never showed up on piefed.social, so I’ll probably never get a reply.
Does that mean they can’t be unblocked?
They can be unblocked. They’re just blocked by default.
These are all tools that can be modified by server admins.
Fair enough. Thanks for the info!
Authoritarian Inoculation – Feature to reduce the impact of authoritarian propaganda.
That’s just the anti-propaganda links on the side.
Piefed.zip
I hated when my posts got popular on reddit. 10k-1m+ people suddenly being aware of my existence, trawling my profile, filling up my inbox with replies and PMs- just a miserable experience that made the website overwhelming for days. Hexbear topping out at like 120 upvotes is the sweet spot for not being overwhelmed but still getting quality engagement in the comments. At most I think a post could get 1000~ without becoming nonsensical, which I think might have been where /r/chapotraphouse topped out.
Whenever the subreddits I ran surpassed 50k subscribers, the algorithmic incentives immediately undermined the things which made that community good. The volume of posts is so high that any individual one is lost unless they can grab attention quick. That’s where the “epic narwhal bacon” shit comes from. In the time it takes to read a multi-paragraph comment, users can upvote a dozen meme ones. Newcomers only see the memes and know that’s how they fit in, so the whole thing snowballs into a parody of whatever the community was originally about. Quick growth comes at the expense of the forum’s ideological coherency and all the internal struggle sessions that form it.
Upvotes mean jack, where’s the community engagement
Upvotes mean nothing when they’re from liberals
HERE’S YOUR COMMUNITY YOU FECKIN EEDJIT
floss your limey
teeth with my asshairTo the lovely tory rat that reported my comment as “bigotry”, sorry, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants don’t get to play that card. Go boil your babby yed along yer mum’s yams.
Does piefed have RSS? That’s my primary way of getting content from lemmy right now.
Yes, I see it linked in the sidebar of each community. Example: https://quokk.au/community/[email protected]/feed
Does it have any ability to get an “all” feed or a combined RSS feed? For example, I can use https://sh.itjust.works/feeds/all.xml?sort=TopDay to get the top items for the day.
I have some URL endpoints that I think might work but I’m getting a “your account is too new for this” error on some that I’m trying on quokk.au.
Looks like that is not implemented yet. I found this relevant issue on their repo: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1428
Another migration. I know I’m sure I’ll be told I’m a ding dong, but all these migrations are the reason why decentralized social media will never be popular. Some probably think that’s a good thing, but 90% of the posts here are the same person posting hentai.
What you don’t like my furry feet fotos
pics?I don’t dislike them. I hate them. I HATE YOU
What do you mean “another migration”? Piefed and Lemmy communities and instances can be viewed from both.
I’ll use the Casual Conversation community as an example. They started out on Lemmy.World. They had 6.7k subscribers. They moved to lemm.ee, which was shut down. Now they are at piefed. One of the biggest communities migrated multiple times and has lost almost 20% of the subscribers.
One could argue that this is the purpose of decentralized social media, but my point is that constant migration and evolution, while not exactly dubious, will keep casual users away.
High-fidelity community migration (no loss of followers) is on my to-do list for the next release. It might get bumped to the release after but it’s on the agenda.
Now we’re talkin!
One of the biggest communities migrated multiple times and has lost almost 20% of the subscribers.
Subscribers are a poor metrics. Active users is much more relevant, and [email protected] is as active as the previous versions used to be
That’s fair.
Most of the initial communities made primarily on lemmy.world benefited from the initial flood of users joining from Reddit after the API fiasco. Most of them didn’t stick around - but their presence on as subscribers on those communities still persists. It’s a false number.
Subscribers aren’t a great metric to determine community viability in many cases.
Yeah, I wish there was a good technical solution for this baked into the Fediverse. PieFed has some of that, you get some features for migrating communities there. But all of this is integral part of this place. We also have like 10 technology communities. It’s not obvious what to subscribe to. Some formed due to growth and changed dynamics. Some because someone was against AI and someone else pro AI, and they split off and made yet another community with the same name. None of that is intuitive to newbies. You can of course subscribe to all of them but then you’ll regularly get the same post 5 times in your timeline because it also leads to cross-posting and all kinds of things… This is by design, though. And it’s difficult to design online platforms to be easy to use, cater to all people, grant freedom to everyone… I think we still got some room for improvement 😉
I have been thinking about this a lot. When you search for “fediverse” you get multiple communities. I think it would have to come from an outside source, like a new site for instance, or maybe an app, but it would be nice if there was a way to just consolidate all communities with a particular name into one super community. I know that’s not how the fediverse works, but imo it should.
Piefed consolidates comments from crossposts : https://piefed.zip/c/space/p/771135/space-station-first-all-docking-ports-fully-occupied-8-spacecraft-on-orbit#post_replies
Once upon a time you needed GNUtella, freeseek, kaazaa, eMule, NZB, DirectConnect, FreeNet, and bittorrent. Give it time, if you can’t tolerate being an early adopter. You will find this pattern throughout life, not just on decentralized networks.
Those were different times.
The average Internet user is a phone user who only knows apps.
I would say centralization might be required to reach Facebook like sizes but I’m not sure that is a valuable goal.
The times change but technologies still go through the same lifecycles. Nothing wrong with waiting for things to mature, though I’d rather accept some rough edges than accept getting sold as a product.
What I meant more is less that the technologies change but that the users have. Users were more tech savvy by nessessity.
There are plenty of people online now who would never have made it before.
The point of ActivityPub is that you don’t have to migrate your account to be part of any shiny new social media platform. You can just stick to lemmy and interact with piefed communities/posts/comments without even knowing about it, just like this post here (it was posted by a piefed user and you’re viewing it on lemmy).
I understand you don’t have to migrate your account. You do have to migrate the community though. Which caused a 20% decrease in members.
Same comment, but from your instance : https://lemmy.world/post/39664704/20826464
One was after the other.
In an ideal world, and I know this is the end-game - Piefed does plan to support total community migration between instances. Ie a piefed.social community could move to piefed.ca and maintain all of its posts, comments and subscribers. Communities would be modular.
Lemmy wouldn’t recognise this though, and I doubt that would ever change.
At some point in the future I will also have time to implement community migration for Lemmy. In theory it’s not so complicated, but there are lots of other things to do.
you can just block the whole lemmynsfw instance
I did. I still get weird posts from time to time from different communities.
i don’t think i’ll ever understand how people can get off to drawings…
I have a very specific fantasy that doesn’t happen in real life… yet.
does it involve a dragon fucking a car?
I have two very specific fantasies now.
I will never understand it, as it’s not my thing, but more power to them I guess.
Right, see you when you become the new Reddit.
they’re already there.
piefed is made by the worldists and they recieve israeli propaganda straight into their .world email address.
I’m not sure if you mean Lemmy or Piefed and why one or either would become the next Reddit
Piefed, obviously, now fare well.
Why or how would Piefed become “the next Reddit” but Lemmy wouldn’t? Both are using the same protocol and are federated
What’s the difference? Can I see piefed communities through Lemmy? Or do I need a different account and/or app?
Basically there are no differences, sure piefed has extra features but if you’re a mobile user no client acturally supports them. Also piefed is newer, less stable, and gets updated more frequently (so the difference between instances is bigger)
The different features are the differences, and you can use them on the browser if the mobile clients are behind. Piefed is fine enough on it.
Its not that the mobile clients are behind its that piefed has no mobile clients whatsoever, just a bunch of Lemmy clients that also happen to support piefed.
Piefed has more features and different devs. From an user perspective they’re not very different.
How different are the devs? Is it just a fork where they regularly pull the upstream lemmy? Or ground up?
This account is getting pretty old and about due for a nuking and dessalines seems to be speedrunning being the tankie musk (right down to surrounding himself with bot-friends). Lemmy is still good enough software but looking for an offramp if you catch my drift.
PieFed main devs support human rights.
PieFed is not a fork of Lemmy. It is a different software, but able to share content with Lemmy using the ActivityPub protocol.
For more info: https://join.piefed.social/features/
Hmmm. I already use and like Thunder and it’s supposed to work for piefed. I’ll have to figure this out, because right now all I use is Lemmy with it.
Not sure how mature Thunder Piefe support is these days.
For alternatives: https://piefed.social/community/fediverse/wiki/piefed-app
Are there mobile apps for it as well?
I use Voyager, you can sign in with both Lemmy and Piefed accounts and switch between them easily.
Yes. Many choices of mobile apps:
Piefed is unrelated at all, afaik.
They’re a bit cavalier with development, though: when they recently rolled out the feature of posts having a ‘selected answer’ a-la StackOverflow, someone pointed out that the marker for the selected answer should be on the post’s data structure, not the comment’s, so a commenter can’t hijack the marker — but the developer replied that they already moved on from that feature and won’t be changing it.
Yes. Entirely different software. Different programming language and tech stack. Also different system requirements and feature set.
Not sure about the developer spirit. PieFed development has traditionally been moving crazy fast and it gets like several new features every month. I think that’s a matter of focus. It comes with consequences, though. But I think overall the project is doing a good job with trying to be compatible to other software. Prioritizing important stuff and doing the right thing. Sometimes some things get done, rather than be 100% perfect. But past experience tells me things often get fixed or changed around once necessary. Not sure if that’s a wise decision here. The JSON exchanged between the servers is probably extra work if changed around later.
I’d legit rather the software develop and occasionally spaff it up and break the server for a few hours every once in a while rather than the non-moving 5 year plans of Lemmy development.
Also, usually piefed.social is the only instance that gets hit with this as, being the flagship server - it takes the brunt of more ‘experimental’ features. Most other servers don’t upgrade to the latest iteration until they’re sure it’s not going to break them.
break the server for a few hours every once in a while
That’s not what botching the protocol does. It opens the way to mess up the posts that shouldn’t be messed up, until the devs get around to fixing it in the protocol and implement the fix on the server and all the clients change their implementation. By that time data on the posts can be irretrievably borked unless someone sits down and retroactively reassigns which answer is the the ‘selected’ one, which again might need an addition to the protocol because it isn’t a central database, except the dev also can’t actually unilaterally decide which is the ‘selected’ answer because the user might’ve changed the selected answer themselves.
Does this sound like ‘breaking the server for a few hours’?
This smells of fresh college-grad coding with people who can’t foresee how their programming decisions affect the software’s workings in the future.
Haha
I have 25 years of experience at this and am well aware of the tradeoffs I’m making.
We’re not building a space shuttle, here. Lighten up.
I’m speaking generally. I’d rather Piefed development speed and the side-effects that come with that than Lemmy’s stagnation.
Good thing we have both development models and people can just pick what they like. I know which one I prefer. 😆
And seems Lemmy is approaching a release with their efforts of the last years as well, they’re at alpha.17 these days…No we are a long way off from a 1.0 release yet.
things often get fixed or changed around once necessary. Not sure if that’s a wise decision here. The JSON exchanged between the servers is probably extra work if changed around later.
Exactly, changing a protocol is not like changing centralized functionality. Not only it introduces mess that could’ve been avoided and mandates some compatibility measures while every client picks up the modified protocol, but it also allows posts to be messed up while this is fixed — without a way to restore the data as it should be, because false data on the comments is indistinguishable from the user changing the selected answer.
Messing up or losing users’ data should be the biggest no-no in web programming, but some people are remarkably carefree about it.
It’s difficult to discuss development in public places like here. There’s always a hundred things on the backlog. People want this, other people want that and someone needs exactly the opposite if all of it. There are a a bazilion ways users can annoy each other and all of it needs fixing. Then a project needs to be stable and reliable. It also needs new features. Performance needs to be right… It’s a proper nightmare job to balance all of it and maintain a mid-sized project. On top of it people will feel entitled, send in security vulnerabilities, complicated stuff that needs review and messes with things, other devs want something to be cleaned up, changed around, want someone to write more or less unit tests… and that also needs time for a plethora of good communication. And then there’s the actual architecture design and coding, which isn’t easy to begin with.
I didn’t study the code. But I’d bet the representation in the database stays the same, no matter which way it’s phrased on transport. It’s some sql relation between answer and post either way. A UI will also want to know how to style a comment at the point it processes that comment, so it makes sense to have it there. On the other hand it makes more sense for the semantics to have it attached to the post. Then there’s who can edit it. We need to trust incoming notes from third parties anyway. And maybe admins or mods can change it as well. They might be on arbitrary instances. So I’m not even sure if it changes anything with security.
And then there’s always many ways to skin a cat in software development. We can have long meetings to write specifications. We can choose to be a bit more explorative and figure things out along the way. We can even choose to make mistakes and fix them later. I think that’s a great thing with computer programming. Fixing mistakes is usually very cheap compared to for example a mechanical engineer who maybe likes to avoid wrecking a $1m piece of equipment. But that also means software developers have the opportunity to work a different way. And there’s a time for each of the methods. The trick is to apply the correct one at the correct time. I really can’t make a good statement here, I’d need to read the code and judge based on all the nuances I just mentioned. It’s regularly not as simple as something appears from the outside.
Wow, that’s amazing crock of a shit of a speech you have there. You don’t know anything about anything, but you’re ready to pump out a whole pageful about it. It’s quite impressive.
You didn’t study shit, but you bet it’s all fine. You bet the database stays the same, and the protocol is all fine, and nothing is ever bothered by anything. It’s all some ‘SQL’ bullshit, why bother about it when smelly nerds can bother about it all they want, right? It’s just some ‘SQL’ fucking nonsense, it means nothing anyway. Just style the UI and process the comment, and it all goes away, you fucking nerd, why are you ever bothered about anything?
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Oh maybe it might in fact make more sense to have it processed by the post instead of the semantics being attached to the fuck of the comment, what the fuck do I know. Just edit the fuck out of it, it makes more sense on the other hand. We need to trust processing by the semantics of the sense, why not. Who can edit it, incoming parties, yeah! Admins or mods, I’m not even sure.
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Then there’s the skin the cat, we can have many long meetings, the specifications, choose a bit, make mistakes, what the fuck do I know. A bit more explorative, make mistakes, fix them, it’s all fine. That’s the great thing. Fixing mistakes. sniff That’s the great thing with programming. It’s very cheap compared to, uh for example to, uh a mechanical, who maybe likes uh to avoid. But that also means. The opportunity. There’s a time bang for each bang of the methods. bang
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I really can’t make a good statement here. It’s regularly not as simple. The trick is to apply the correct one.
The Stack overflow function is, to my knowledge, only on the test instance currently.
I’m quoting the response from the piefed dev in the announcement thread that popped up in the feed on .world. So it’s not my monkeys as to whether it’s on the test instance, but the response is what it is.
I think the registration process and “official” app made piefed a more welcoming enrollment for people who are just casual users. Like, I had to explain a lot of shit to get my GF signed up for Lemmy. My grandma could sign up for piefed without much guidance.
In terms of what content you can see, the difference between Lemmy and PieFed is effectively the same as the difference between two Lemmy instances. As long as the instances federate with one another, it does not matter which platform you use. You can definitely interact with PieFed from Lemmy just fine. In fact, you are doing so right now! My account is on a PieFed Instance.
This meme is more making a joke about how relatively young PieFed is. Years back, a post to any community on the fediverse that got 20 upvotes was huge. But today, a post with 20 votes is basically nothing (depending in the size of the community). By the time PieFed came about, the fediverse was populated enough that a post with only 20 votes was nothing like a post with 20 votes in the olden days of Lemmy.
for you an average user you’re not going to notice much in difference. you’ll get more features with Piefed but otherwise you can still view and interact with each instance.
From an admin side/someone who runs their own instance Piefed is just so much better. lighter, easier to set up, run, and manage.
You can see lemmy communities on Piefed.
But you will need to make a new account on a piefed instance, same as you would moving to any other lemmy instance.
I thought we could easily migrate accounts between Fediverse instances and that that was a core feature of ActivityPub for preventing a single instance from dominating and effectively centralizing the Fediverse?
Does piefed not support account migration?
You can import your subscriptions, and communities can be migrated over - but I am unaware of an account migration function.
Hmm, only Mastodon is mentioned for this feature in the ActivutyPub spec… I’m not sure if it’s the only service that has implemented this fully or if it’s just the example used.
https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-data-portability/#move-action
That’s ashame, because account mobility is the most important tool for healthy decentralization. The reason Facebook or Twitter can “get away with” implementing such shitty policies and abusing their users is because the users are locked in, with a high cost to switching platforms.
The cost is highest for accounts like small businesses that live and die by social media marketing, once they have an established presence and successfully built a following on a platform, it is very risky for them to give that up and start over on a new one.
I imagine Rimu would need to work with Lemmy in order to bring in that kind of migration for accounts where the post-history is completely redirected, but I doubt that’s gunna happen.
He addressed it in the interview on [email protected]
Long story short: migrating subscriptions and blocks are enough for the Threadiverse as your posts belong more to the communities where you posted than yourself
Yeah, I’d argue community migration is by far a more valuable priority than account migration.
Migrate is a strong word, more like you can copy your settings, it’s certainly not intrinsic to the standard either. Remember, your username includes your instance after all. I am not deeply versed but one of the better platforms was Mastodon and it was still limited to moving your settings and followers to your new account and setting the old one to forward. Posts weren’t reattributed or anything though.
The strength of the fediverse is how the data is duplicated and how it’s the sum of many parts, but maintaining an “identity” on the fediverse is still wobbly, some like that though, it leans into the privacy/anonymity side of things.
No real difference in core features. Its all the extras that make me happy.
I have been really enjoying the scheduled post feature. I can set up my shitposts to be automatically posted at the optimal time of day. For English communities, I find that to be about 9:30 AM USA time.
I do the same with [email protected] so I dont flood the community every day with videos.
