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it’s the former, not the latter
“damn kids get out my lawn”
The Prestige
Why are you booing me I’m right
This happens a lot with old movies.
A film comes out that’s revolutionary, so every film after it copies it. Future eyes lack that context, so they just see something that looks like everything else they’ve seen.
Citizen Kane is a good example. The writing, editing, and cinematography were revolutionary at the time. But, through a modern lens, it appears very ordinary because it’s very similar to every copycat that followed it.
I’m bitter and old, AND movies have gotten worse. All those things are true.
I have better now luck with TV shows. Currently, Pluribus is good.
I’m on here now, because I couldn’t find anything to watch tonight. I’m hoping One Battle After Another is good, we’ll see. Often, I turn off a new movie less than 15 minutes in.
I watched Point Break last night for the second time. Great film. Very unaware of how gay it is though, and I wonder what 90s mainstream audiences thought of it
we just thought it was an awesome, underrated bro movie. bro as in brothers and male relationships.
A lot of male asses being shown, and guys who hold eye gazes longer than can be deemed non-romantic.
Also “young, dumb, and full of cum” isn’t something you typically say to a new hot shot. You say they’re “full of spunk”.
Edit: Oh shit, it’s all been gay all along. The whole damn english language!
Spielberg’s A.I. Artificial Intelligence.
Mostly I just wondered why the movie was made in the first place. Sure, examining the tragedy of creating an intelligent being that cannot mature and cannot let go of emotional attachments by design is interesting… but the meandering, pointless story had like three places it could have ended and just … didn’t, finally topping it off with a ‘bittersweet’ ending that seemingly had no purpose besides to give some catharsis to the audience despite being so out of left field that it had no relation to the rest of the story. It could have been an art book showing off the scenery instead of bothering to throw an aimlessly wandering robot child into it.
I still like the movie although it is definitely a movie I have to be in a mood for. However, after I watch the ending I realize I want the future people and technology to be a movie.
It wpuld be more interesting to reimagine the film as future archeologists discovering this story but maybe not getting it exactly right based only on artifacts. More like short stories being told through the film. It would have had the same message, characters and locations, but would have been more focused as the stories they showed would have had to be ultra relevant to the plot. Not sure if any of this makes sense.
This is a great idea, actually.
Watched it when it was released, completely forgot about it.
Saw it mentioned on a podcast, watched it again about two weeks ago. I can barely remember it now. The “I see dead people” kid, Jude Law, and Teddy Ruxpin look for a statue? Yeah, that sounds right.
When it was mentioned on the podcast, I mistook it for I, Robot. That’s how much I’d forgotten about the movie.
It was a movie that Kubrick and Spielberg both thought the other guy would be able to make it work. So they passed it back and forth. The scenes you think Kubrick came up with, were actually things Spielberg came up with and vice versa. “Here’s a scene you’d be the perfect director to make, you should direct this movie!” So it’s a mix between what Spielberg thought Kubrick should do and what Kubrick thought Spielberg should do.
Neither of them could make it work. But Kubrick died and Spielberg felt he had to finish it. It’s an interesting movie to see what each director wanted the other director to do, but it’s not a great movie to just sit and enjoy as a movie.
Looking at you, Mulholland Drive
I liked it 😬
For the plot, right?
There was a plot?
It was a lot gayer than I thought it’d be.
really liked it but literally said “what the fuck” when it ended
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We compare the slop of the present to the masterpieces of the past because we don’t remember the slop of the past.
Survivorship bias but with movies
Fair point but the slop of the present is pretty damn shitty
Any you’ll forget about it in about two or three years.
While our brains rot
Isn’t that what they said Movies would do to you in the 30s?
Have you saw how stupid people are lately?
they were even dumber back then, i know it’s hard to believe but it’s true
What, you think that’s a new thing? You think people weren’t dumb fucks in the 1930s? The 1830s? The 1730s? Human life is temporary, mass idiocy is eternal.
It’s not just you, my friend.
Among many movies, I felt that way about Killers of the Flower Moon and it literally took me to fall into a random convo with the girl who cleans my office at work before I found a like-minded individual.
That movie and The Irishman were piss, but everybody insists they are masterpieces because Scorsese made them. Scorsese is just like James Cameron and Fancis Ford Coppola where they have reached an age and are so accomplished that they have lost touch with the world and are surrounded by yes men who don’t dare tell them no. And so they make very long and very shitty movies that are more for themselves than they are for anybody else. At least, Cameron is able to make his avatar slop entertaining while you’re watching it even if it is forgettable af.
Killers of the Flower Moon was particularly infuriating for me because it was so clearly just Scorsese making yet another movie about white men who are shitty, while pushing the native Americans off to the wayside as supporting casts in the movie that was supposed to be about them.
I read the book too because people kept telling me my opinion was wrong and that this was a good movie that is very faithful to the book. Well, clearly every person who claimed this, did not read the book because the book very much stays with the native Americans and their perspective and the case is treated the way it normally would when you have a conspiracy/murder mystery. You get invested in this people, you fear for them and the revelations are horrible.
Scorsese was like: how about we make the movie entirely about the bad guys and we have no reveals ever because we are told exactly what and how things happen from the start and treat the native Americans like they are ignorant, brain dead idiots who fall for the easiest trick in the book? Yeah, let’s do that. Let’s make the natives stupid and naive and have the conmen be super obviously evil and gross too, to the point that we don’t understand how any of these native Americans could have ever called them friend or family. Let’s race swap the only nice white man in the movie too. He was native American in real life, but for whatever reason they made him white in the movie. I still don’t know why they did that. I thought this was supposed to be authentic to real life. We do not race swap historical figures. I thought we all agreed that it was dumb when they made Anne Boleyn black. It’s also dumb when we make a native American man white in a movie about how white men committed systematic murders on native Americans to get their money.
Oh, let’s also make the movie 4 hours long and throw a temper tantrum when cinemas around the world implement intermissions so that movie goers have a chance to pee and get refreshments. No no, this slop is ART and Scorsese-manchild wants you to sit through all 4 hours of his slop because it’s his movie.
Piss movie. I hated it so much and nobody agreed with me until I spoke to my cleaning lady who completely understood where I was coming from.
The book is so much better. Such a well crafted blueprint for a suspenseful movie or TV show about a horrific chapter in native American history and how oil money attracts all the predators and vultures in the world to eat you and your family until nothing is left. Not even bone fragments.
But no. Scorsese cannot make movies from any other perspective than that of white men with corrupt souls so, sorry, native Americans. You gotta be supporting casts in your own friggin story.
Amazing. Piss movie. It riles me up everytime I think about it and it riles me up even more how much undeserved praise it recieved. Piss. Movie.
Thought it was good. I missed much of the hype before and after and went in blind.
I think your anger is directed more at your expectations of it (a.k.a the ad/hype machine) than the film itself
I didn’t follow the hype. All I knew about the movie before going into it was that Scorsese had rewritten the script because he realized he had made a movie about white men and forgotten the native Americans. To which I now ask: what the fuck was the script like before?
I’m glad that you liked it, but please don’t make assumptions about me disliking it because I supposedly fell for a hype train. That is not what happened.
Scorsese thinks if you fire editors and shit out 3 hours of film it’s an epic.
This was Everything Everywhere All At Once for me. Normally I’m pretty easy to please but this one fell completely flat
OH MY GOD, THANK YOU.
It’s not that I don’t like the film, quite the contrary.
I just can’t stand that people compare the shit to The Godfather. My impression of these viewers is they walked out of the theater going “I haven’t cried that hard since Endgame!!”
It’s really, really not that deep. It was fine for what it was, well produced and rather entertaining. But it’s a far cry from Citizen Kane or Memento lol
I liked the movie, but people sold it as this incredibly weird and awesome masterpiece. I think my expectations were just way too high.
To be fair, part of the premise of that movie is to immerse yourself in absurd ideas in parallel universes… for reasons. So it’s not surprising that it gets confusing.
It’s not confusing at all, it’s one of the most straightforward and easy to follow plots imo. Would definitely satisfy the “second screen” requirements of most at-home streaming audiences lol
Honestly, maybe that’s the real reason it became so popular. Even a child could keep up with it.
See, I didn’t hate it because it was confusing, I hated it because it felt boring and cringy. Once you get over the initial genre hopping whiplash, it’s just more generic action tropes and multiverse nonsense that had already been done to death by the time that movie came out. At the insistence of the people I was watching with, I admittedly didn’t make it past the expository bagel scene, but once I got the pulse that it was a slice-of-life drama and John Wick thrown in a blender with Rick and Morty, I didn’t mind turning it off, and I usually hate not finishing movies.
The gimmick was gimmicky, sure - and they made sure to do it as gimmicky as possible, all part of its charm.
Its staying power was in the unique story of a mother pulling her daughter away from the precipice of spiralling self-destruction by opening her heart and mind to new ideas and breaking the cycle of generations of cultural abuse.
It genuinely has a wonderful message, and I remember it for that, and less for its action/scifi
I kind of agree that’s what I never really got about it. It’s not mind bending. It’s a classic example of movie snobs having never considered that sci-fi could be art and getting confused when the movie asks the audience to make the slightest leap in imagination.
The thing I did like about it a lot is that it’s a very rare movie, especially an action flick, in which the main character is a 40+ year old woman who actually gets a character arc. That was cool.
The ending is fairly relevant to the quality of the movie
Noted. I’ll give the rest of it a shot sometime.
I watched “Hugo” because it was so critically acclaimed. It had all the awards. Critics loved it…
Most boring, pretentious, film-school self-masturbatory slog I’ve ever watched.
The plot was either boring or incoherent. There a boy in a train station? And now there’s a steampunk robot who… draws movies or something? And some old dude in a shitty apartment has a bunch of obscure history films? What tf are we doing? And the robot is magic now?
The only reason it got high marks is so every critic to wax themselves about how bigbrain cultured they are. The totally got all the niche nods/ode/references and it totally justified their bullshit college degrees…
You watched a children’s adventure comedy movie and surprised it’s a but nonsensical? Unless the critics sold it as something it’s not, I think this one is in you 😄
I saw bits when a flatmate watched it and it was not being treated like a movie aimed at children. Looked dull as dishwater.
right? like… it’s a kids movie. it’s not a biopic or art film. the hell is OP going on about?
Our breakfast television has a movie critic straight out of the feuilleton. Any movie that people actually go to is automatically bad, and there is not enough praise for art house films that makes people fall asleep in the cinema and never even make it to TV or streaming.
Sounds like the time Ebert of Siskel & Ebert gave Twister a thumbs down because “it had no plot.”
But were they wrong?
sounds like a good critic.
Yes, she perfectly recommends what to avoid if you go to the cinema to enjoy yourself.
For me it’s Gravity (the one with Sandra Bullock crying in space) and the last two Nolan Batman films. I just don’t understand why people like them so much.
because it’s porn/fan service.
Gravity was a 2 hour ‘omg going to die in space’ porno.
“Choke me harder, space vacuum! <3”
Are you including the dark knight there? I though that was the best of the three.
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I’m here with the nolan movies, but i thought the first one was the weakest of them. And by weak i mean it was pretty ass.
lol Batman Begins is the only one of the three I like
KPop Demon Hunters came out this year.
It sounds like a cheesy kids’ movie. It even kinda looks like one. Or, at least, before it got super popular when everybody realised “hey, this movie is actually really good” and started playing the soundtrack nonstop between viewings. And not just little kids, middle-aged people like it, too. I’ve been watching and loving movies for about 40 years, and I remember seeing Mortal Kombat (1995) in theaters, and being just floored by that opening. Cheesy yes, but techno music with sound bytes from the game (the Super NES/Genesis game!) while flames roasted the dragon logo? Movie intros usually aren’t that cool. Movies aren’t meant to be a thrill ride. They play the long con. KPop Demon Hunters was the first one in a long time (I guess 30 years) that gave me the same feeling. I felt it when the first song hit. Then the scenes with the light flashing in the plane windows. I knew I was in for one hell of a ride. I’ve seen it four or five times now, and it doesn’t get old. It may not be good like a Scorcese or Tarantino movie, but it’s fun, and that’s good. It’s more fun than all the recent-ish Star Wars movies. I remember when those were fun. Someone lost the memo.
Movies don’t have to be good if they’re fun. A lot of people liked Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddy’s, The Emoji Movie… I haven’t seen any of them. But KPop Demon Hunters looked pretty stupid, too, until I gave it a chance. If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it’s done its job. Let’s stop asking much more than that from movies. Sure, I have a niche I absolutely love (smart/weird flicks like I Origins, Predestination, Donnie Darko… even if they’re pseudo-intellectual, if I can dig into it, I love that shit) but a fun dumb movie is cool in my books.
I watched it with my wife. I can see how it became popular, especially the music, but it’s not for me. I didn’t like the movie due to the music.
The animation, however… I’m honestly excited for the sequel JUST for the animation!
Well shit. I might just have to watch Kpop hunters. I kept seeing it but I didn’t care enough to look into it.
I know the exact feeling with watching Mortal Kombat because I watched it in the theaters and thought it was great.
“Your soul is mine.”. Cutt to techno music 🎵🎶🎵🎵🎶
Kpop Demon Hunters initially looks like a girlie movie that was shoehorned into being an action flick.
It’s a drama, interspersed with enough comedy and action to make you forget that it’s a drama. The story isn’t anything special, but it has well-done emotional beats backed by a soundtrack that elevates it. It is absolutely worth watching. (And the animation is fantastic.)
Don’t go into it expecting a cinematic masterpiece; it’s made for kids. It is also, however, a kid’s movie that is intended to entertain the adults who take their kids to see it.
If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it’s done its job. Let’s stop asking much more than that from movies.
Never underestimate entertainment value. All art is also always part entertainment. Never forget that.
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