Jesus christ, what the fuck is this question? This is essentially a thinnly-veiled “Which nationality are the worst people?”, thinnly-veiled racism.

Literally hald of them are like, “Chinese people baaad”, wtf. And also 1/3 of them are “Indians baaad”.

I’m Chinese American which is why that thread made me feel disgusted at reddit.

Like holy shit, I’m not overreacting right? I’m pretty sure c/[email protected] would never allow this troll question.

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    Am from Finland. If I had to answer the thread, I would have been like “oh, American tourists are usually the weirdest, but you’ve just gotta be patient with them, usually the people from the anglosphere are fairly chill once shit dies down. And the people from other parts of the world may have some strange customs but you’ve just gotta be patient with them. That’s, like, the Key. Of all customer service.”

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      Honestly, American tourists that i met were super nice. Usually pretty loud and a bit main character-y, but flvery friendly.

      I do remember one older guy tho when i was in the middle of nowhere at a gas station. It was so off the beaten path that even i had a bit of trouble understanding people there, and vice versa, because of the dialect. The old guy stomped in there and just started babbeling. The lady there had no idea what he wanted, because she didn’t speak any english, and there were also other customers that came before him. He was absolutely livid and i just pretended to not understand, because, rude. He was fuming because no one spoke american or just ignored him. When he walked out he called me an asshole for wearing a NY yankees hat and that they sucked. To this day i wonder how he even got this for before realising that not the whole word speaks american

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      Nothing spoils a vacation quicker. You teach yourself some of the language, get on with the locals, avoid the tourist traps, and just when you’ve forgotten all your troubles and you’re feeling magnanimous and at your ease, someone nearby goes and ruins it.

      They will be existing quite blamelessly among their friends and family, conversing to each other normally, or even more pleasantly than usual. At home you might smile for them and the happiness they had found. Here however, they strike you as unbearably loud and unspeakably crass. You notice how badly their clothes fit, and yet how you wish they’d wear more.

      With an orclike air and children in tow they evoke the forced march of Merry and Pippin, and it wounds your feelings to see so many of them unchecked in civilised lands. Their travel agent must be a raven-haired, sallow-faced betrayer, hated in these parts for pouring poisoned words into the ear of the local authorities, and you wish he’d have been made an outlaw before it was too late.

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    It’s hard being racist against a specific country when you’re the first tourism destination in the world, but British really do produce a special kind of tourists.
    I literally read an article just yesterday about some drunken asshole who tried to open the hatch midflight, was manhandled by the personnel and some volunteers, and then taken off the flight in Toulouse, with his mates. They were going to Spain, who seem to be plagued with that specific breed of lads, but still.

    Also it’s difficult to distinguish genuine racism (“brown people poo in the streets!”) from xenophobia triggered by actual, repeated experience (try living in one of the most popular touristic small towns in France for a summer…)

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    That’s not a racist question, IMO. Like, I’d say British. I guess it depends on the country. And both Britain and my country are predominantly white.

    That people came in with racist responses doesn’t mean the question itself is racist.

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      Yeah British is the standard response where I’m from, specifically groups of “lads” or “lasses” that get super fucked up and make a mess in the city center, sometimes for bachelor(ette) parties.

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      I feel like xenophobic would be hating on all (foreign?) tourists, while racist is picking one specific nationality like asked by the post.

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        Xenophobia is about “where” the person is from, even if they “don’t look like it”, and it can also happen within a country (Brazil’s southerners tend to be very xenophobic against people from northeast). Racism would be “every white person”, whether Italian, Bri’ish, Russian, etc.

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        Nationalities are defiend by ethnic make up, not races.

        Race is very USian thing to define things by.

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    As someone who lived on the northern US border for a long time this is a very easy question for me to answer without being racist haha.

    The myth of Canadian politeness really stops at the border.

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    I once saw a woman screaming at the receptionist of an internet cafe cause she was being charged for two time slots, rather than one. She had exceeded her time by like 10 minutes. It was not much money they were fighting over. She just felt entitled to pay less, cause it was not her intention to exceed this threshold.

    This was in Thailand and the woman was an American.

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      A good way around this, imo, is how libraries here in the US (the ones I’ve been to, anyway) do it.

      Here, they usually have an hour-long timer where you can do whatever you need/want on the computer. When that hour ends, it kicks you out of the PC back to a login screen, but you can almost always just re-login.

      I think some libraries have a limit, but I’m not entirely sure.

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    This is essentially a thinnly-veiled “Which nationality are the worst people?”, thinnly-veiled racism.

    American isn’t a race.

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    Anyone who travels with an entitled attitude sucks.

    I’ve met people from all over the world that fit that description.

    Assholes aren’t just from one place

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      There are assholes in every society.

      There is also cultural norms that are in conflict. Tourist commonly fail to adapt or even notice when they are violating them. Which tourist are the worst often depends on which culture clashes the most societal norms.

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      Yes. It’s just unfortunate that tourism will concentrate a large amount in small places, too often.
      On the plus side I’ve met so many wonderful people who were tourists.

      I think the main difference is that one perso is, you know, someone you get to know. While many people is a crowd and crowds are ugly beasts.

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    Race is not the same as nationality, however it’s a difficult one because your examples Chinese and Indian are also perceived as ethnicities.

    The question is a bit pointless anyway as the place itself will help determine who are the worst groups.

    For example in this thread people are talking about British tourists - but in reality that is a subset of generally young and less well off British tourists who go to the Mediterranean - especially Spain but not exclusively - for cheap package holidays and party drunkardly. Meanwhile British tourists who go to other parts of Europe (families, wealthier tourists etc) or the rest of the world do not have that reputation.

    Personally I don’t live in a tourist hot-spot now so tourists aren’t a problem. When I lived in London, the answer was generally European tourists but only because there were so many of them compared to other groups and they’d stand around in the middle of busy pavements blocking other people trying to get around. Worst was blocking Tube entrances. But far better than drunkardly vomiting and pissing all over the street I guess.

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    I live in a tourist town and can confirm, they all suck in their own ways. Also, sometimes non-tourists also suck. Also, most of the time people suck.

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    Honestly its always been the British where I live. Gets drunk and tries to pick fights on the street.

    Now. Most British tourists are great. Its just of all the tourists that cause problems, its usually the Brits.

    Judge me if you wish. Thats just been my experince.

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    Why is there an assumption of nationality = ethnicity?

    People act the way they act as a reflection of their environment and society, not race.

    Would you say you are behaving the same as a mainlander?

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      You should know most people use racism and bigotry interchangeably because most people don’t have a good understanding of the difference. You may not like it, but in most contexts the difference is not actually important.

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      Because when a country’s demonym is also an ethnicity (Such as India --> Indian, China --> Chinese, Japan --> Japanese, South Korea --> Korean), people usually conflate the two.

      For example, my nationality is American, but if I visit somewhere in like, idk, Europe, they wouldn’t care about nationality, I would be “that Chinese guy”, basically lumping me in with the sterotypes they come up with.

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        You know what’s interesting about your comment? I’m Mexican-Canadian and in Canada I have always been “the mexican”. When I lived in the UK, I was “the Canadian one”, to distinguish me from the American person with the same name. This was despite the fact that I am Mexican born. So you never know, in Europe, you might still just be that American guy.

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        Not at all, as soon as you opened your mouth you would be “that American guy”. In fact, I probably wouldn’t even need to hear your voice and would spot you from your clothing/accessories first already.

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        There are many ethnicities in India and China. Your equivalence breaks down, because then both an uyghur, tibetian and han chinese would be the same.

        I get it, if we are talking about outsider’s perspective, I for example can’t tell apart a typical chinese from a typical korean or japanese person. Due to the lack of exposure, my brain only registers them as “asian person”. Maybe the language can give a clue, but that’s debateable.

        Still, the broader the brushes we paint with, the more erroneous generalization are.