• Digit@lemmy.wtf
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    So they’ve taken a leaf out of KDE’s development book.

    Is windows11 Microsoft’s KDE4 moment?

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      Well, it does boot most of the time. So it’s not completely broken, just majorly broken…

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    For what it’s worth, my KDE file browser would freeze up when I had a WebDav network drive to a server that went offline, not exactly elegant either, just opening my home folder and randomly after a second or two …… all software can bug in bad ways.

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      True, I’ve experienced that bug.

      The big different is that, depending on how knowledgeable you are, you can either report the bug, you can diagnose it (check the logs, trace and profile the calls), dig in the code, patch it or try a patch someone developed for the bug, or simply ignore it and use a different file browser. That freedom is priceless.

      With Windows you’re stuck waiting for the next upgrade that may or may not break something else and brings new and exciting AI and telemetry shoved into it.

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      The main difference is KDE doesn’t make disgusting money off it, and if someone cares enough they can actually submit a fix

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        That’s the reason I put up with a lot of FOSS issues: “I’m not paying you for this, so it’s still a better price/result ratio than paid services”

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      That is definitely an annoyance. But the cause is not your file browser or KDE. The webdav has been mounted to the system and when an application tries to use it, it runs into a timeout. You can’t even unmount it, since that requires the system to talk to the network drive.

      This is also not limited to webdav, it happens with all kinds of network drives. This is something that needs to be addressed at the core level of Linux. But I have no expertise, so no real clue where exactly.

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        this is a file browser or KDE issues, as file system operations shouldn’t happen on the UI thread. if it weren’t happening on the UI thread then it would keep working.

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          The same behavior happens for me in a different file browser (Nemo) and a different Desktop (Cinnamon). So I’m pretty confident, it is no isolated KDE issue.

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      “We’ll slap some ‘AI’ on any a few things and, boom, it’ll fix itself” -Whoever the Microsoft CEO is now

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    Didn’t windows 11 become available long ago? Did no one ever try it out before the hostage situation?

    Certainly not the beta testers

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      I tried it for a couple of months when it first came out. At that early point it wasn’t too bad for usability. But, after a decent look around it, I wiped it and went back to Linux on my laptop.

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    Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don’t have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn’t at risk of wanting to come back…

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    You know I never really thought about it but do you think the spying tools these companies provide ever fail like the way their other products do?

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          The extended support program is the one-year extension for the consumer versions (Home and Pro) and it requires a mandatory Microsoft account and data harvesting. Win10 IOT LTSC is contractually obligated to be supported until 2032 - and conveniently has all the garbage included in the consumer versions removed.

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    7 hours ago

    IT has been an interesting ride the last two months, encountering some of the weirdest bugs I’ve ever seen, after two decades of Windows working just fine for the most part.

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    When do I get a calendar on my systray or whatever they call it on my other monitor?

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    Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue

    Install Linux.

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    What kind of idiots create a program that says, “Outlook failed to load. Repair application?” when the only problem is the wifi is disconnected?

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      The problem is that someone decided to dumb down the error message to not scare users, instead of passing on the real error code from the application that people could Google and fix in 5 mins themselves.

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        On top of that, the logs for the actual support technicians are scattered all across the filesystem.
        C:\ProgramData\
        C:\Users\AppData\Roaming or Local or maybe LocalLow
        C:\Windows\Temp
        It’s own install folder
        C:\Programs
        C:\Programs (x86)

        Like…why (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

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        It’s like this with a blue screen. You used to tell you what went wrong but now it just shows a :-( Which is pathetic.

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          The tiny text and QR code actually have the error still. It’s just the frowny face is 10x the font size.

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        Dumb downed? They’ve taken a simple error and made it into something that does scare users. The “Repair application?” was far more alarming to my visiting friend than an “No Internet connection” would have been. It is astounding that any company would put out such complete shit.

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          Imagine they removed the oil, engine and fuel lamps, and then while driving:

          Car Malfunctioning. Attempt Repair?

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            Sorry, your subscription to CarRepair has expired. Would you like to renew for $29.99 recurring monthly and allow your car to start again? Clippy can wait forever and even has tips about roadside engine repair!*

            *tips included with paid subscription

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    Why does File Explorer freeze just because I opened it?!?

    Every time???

    How do they mess this up so bad?

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      Do you have disconnected network drives or slow to spin-up?
      Because that froze mine on the regular.

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      That said, did they fix the issue where explorer (with the desktop) would just randomly crash for no reason? I’ve worked in IT for 3 months and it was a frequent issue.

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        I had this just last night and didn’t realise. Everything else was working fine, but then I glanced at my phone and realised that it was 2 hours later than the computer was showing.

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      I went back to Win10 at work because file explorer on Win11 was unusable. I’m not waiting a half second every single time I enter a subfolder.

      and even worse in a OneDrive directory, often a full two seconds

      that wasn’t the only issue, but it legitimately prevented me from being able to do my job, because I needed to be able to multitask on several projects at once. what used to be a two minute turnaround on a question somebody would ask me became hours, simply because I could not navigate to a directory in fifteen seconds and check a file quickly. and oh god the file explorer crashes

      unfortunately I still deal with a bunch of that on Win10 now, because they somehow introduced that behaviour with greater frequency into Win10 in the past year

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        The funny thing is that both Outlook and OneDrive work way better on the Mac.

        I just wish they were available for Linux.

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          Too sad that alternatives like Thunderbird doesnt have anything like automated rules or quicksteps.

          I thought those linux guys were all about automating the shit out of their desktop???

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        It’s amazing how a second or 5 at so many levels causes micro-frustration. And it builds up, too.

        I admit I lose just a bit of my shit when the neu web-service web-apps get sluggish, which seems to be very often. Those of us who remember the halcyon days where things were responsive on a pentium know better than to accept the current mess.

        My tolerance for the poor performance and saas-linked core services is rapidly waning.

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          The scariest part is how the general population just accepts how bad Windows is, because they don’t have a concept of what a decent piece of software looks like. They just assume that they hate computers but are simply forced to tolerate it to do their job.

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        File explorer has always been a weak point in Windows, it just got better in the later versions. Which speaks volumes about this OS too.

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        I’m so glad I blocked all the updates from MS on mydesktopm. It’s a nice stop gap until I get moved to linux

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            Lol no arch for me just yet and esp no beta arch lmao. I’m working through my computers and devices at the moment. I have liked Zorin so far and have it on two laptops. I also swapped a fire tablet to lineage last week and I just replaced my phone and got a pixel and installed Graphene as well. I’m getting there. Just have my last laptop and my desktop to migrate. I’m putting off my desktop until I can migrate off a couple services. Also because I know it’ll be a major biiiiiitch. I have so many tools lol

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        I have that problem on my son’s pc. It’s definitely an io issue. A faster disk would solve the problem.