How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don’t want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?
I like the Nathan Fillion comment during some red carpet interview when the interviewer was trying to egg him into saying something that would get rage clicks from one side or the other of the current political trash fire.
“its just a movie guys”
Superman was not a brooding edge lord until Snyder’s take outside of specific story runs, and it is obvious that a lot of people don’t know that.
The cinematic-repubLkan-universe kindness is weakness… Good doesn’t pretend to be evil. But evil does pretend to be good…ffs, 'the list is on my desk…"
I’m curious how this movie is, I’m used to the older ones and a show called Smallvile.
I did not know there was some anger about this Superman movie. Anyone could quick give me a small summary?
Though bit bummed out that they keep remaking movies and shows instead of making new ones.
Anyone could quick give me a small summary?
James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds
and conservatives are losing their minds
“he can’t be! He isn’t brown!”
People on Facebook are telling me he isn’t an immigrant, he’s from outer space. I’m so confused as to what they think an immigrant is
Literally an illegal alien, and they refuse to see it.
But that’s nothing new. In Smallville there is one episode in which Clark literally said to his mother Martha that he is an illegal alien too.
That’s all? That’s why they’re upset? Sigh, it’s as if someone accidentally farts and then they rage.
Isn’t he kinda right though? If I remember well, Superman came from another planet.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48819895
Some conversations about it here. No spoilers, as of this writing.
This POS
They don’t have a movie but they have a show. Homelander is the perfect ‘hero’ for these people. Only even the dullest dullard in the magat pile fails to recognize the character is evil but they never consider they are the baddies. Edit: fixed spell check.
Highlander? I am not making the connection.
I fixed it. It was supposed to be Homelander.
There can be only one!
(I don’t get it either. Maybe they’re thinking of The Boys, with the character Homelander?)
They confirmed it was an error and indeed meant homelander—you were right. They corrected it. FYI.
Highlander being a hero for the conservatives is an interesting thought experiment though hahaha
If we’re giving them all claymores and letting them have at it it seems okay to me.
I just came out of watching the new movie.
In the scene in which Clark gets interviewed, seen also in the trailer, it is transparent that Superman is with Francesca Albanese on a very current issue.
That’s what they are mad about.
I guess WB/DC is gonna fall out of grace.
Conservatives are still mad that Superman fought the kkk.
If Superman were real, he 100% would have melted a lot of those racist fucks.
Which is admitting they side with the kkk, isn’t it
Probably the same idiots who thought Homelander was a hero.
Homelander is a hero, just not to the public.
I’ve been wondering if there are Trump supporters watching The Handmaid’s Tale and siding with Gilead
Yes there are
too many words, not enough explosions
I’m sure they have watched it and made lots of notes.
Did someone acctually expressed that thought?
Yeah, Dean Fucking Cain did.
The worst Superman in my lifetime.
I’m aware if him critiquing him being emigrant end “woke” - which is idiotic, sure. Not aware of him criticyzing Superman for being kind.
lol well some evangelicals are also suggesting trump is literally the second coming of jesus, so I guess they’re just inventing their next religion right now.
Propaganda is powerful. You convince your followers that some classes of people don’t deserve kindness, you convince them that everything out of Hollywood is part of a leftist agenda, and once they believe both of those statements it’s very easy to spin this as further proof of the narrative they’ve already bought into.
Hey, fascists don’t deserve kindness.
But what if you kill them with kindness?
Just be sure to make it look like an accident.
Feels wrong to hide it.
Like Bob Ross, just a happy accident.
In that case, the end justify the means. :-)
Whatever gets the job done.
I don’t care how you do it, it’s something that must be done either way.
I’m just baffled because not only is it way easier to not hate people, it’s way more beneficial for everyone.
These people are taking two mile hikes to find the perfect deer shit to shove down their throats.
You forget who benefits. It’s not the majority, correct.
That’s fully understood, we’re talking about propaganda, and I’m talking about who that propaganda affects.
You’re not wrong though at all. Arm yourself, convince anyone you can to do the same.
Only war is class war and I aim to win this bitch
Superman fighting the klan didn’t work because adults laughed at their hand signs and shit that were disclosed…
It’s because it got a generation of kids to see the klan as the bad guys
If Superman hated you, how the fuck were you going to indoctrinate your kid into the klan?
That’s why they’re always bitching about media. The people doing it are ignorant, but the ones telling them what to be mad about it are picking logical targets to fufil longterm goals.
It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.
I completely agree it’s like loosing weight, at a certain point it becomes actively harmful.
Fighting for freedom never ends.
It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.
Can confirm. 330lbs I said “I’ll reach 320.”
At 320 I said I’ll reach 310.
At 310 I said 300.
At 300 I said 290.
Then 280.
Then 270.
Then 260.
Then 250.
Then 240.
I went back up to 250. Oh no no no no no. Fuck that shit. I’m going to see 240. And when I do, it’ll set my sights on 230.
And when I see 230, I will hug someone. Because that will be 100lb.
Which means I’ll look to 220.
And then 210.
And 200.
I don’t know where my weight loss journey ends. I don’t know when I’ll feel at a healthy weight.
I just know I hope my journey brings me to a day when I get to punch a nazi.
Because nazi lives DON’T matter!
The only good fascist is the one buried in the earth.
The last thing you said is why I got one of my bans on Reddit. Fuck Reddit.
You’re gonna do it brudduh, don’t stop bettering yourself :)
Well. Your journey took real strength. Ain’t that something? Keep fighting the good fight.
Just don’t think of it as a diet or oppressive. Make it a lifestyle. I’m still around 220 after 11 years of mostly stuck in bed. 16 years ago I was 350. A part of me wishes I was still 190 at 7%, but it is super hard for me to get that low. I just don’t have that kind of pain tolerance to deal with being light headed and hungry 24/7 while counting calories, eating constantly, but never meals or more than a few bites of dry salad or chicken. Without racing and riding like 400+ miles a week, I’m just not that kind of motivated. I’d much rather be lazy and eat meals with way too many calories at once but still far fewer than most people. I have no desire to binge or eat processed food of any kind any more. Avoiding dairy has also been super helpful too because that is a good excuse to avoid most junk people make, fast food, or restaurants the few chances I ever get.
Holy shit you’re right.
I’m out of the loop here. I’ve seen something about the most recent director or writer calling Superman an immigrant, and Dean Cain hating on that take and calling it “woke”. But I haven’t seen anyone expressing that Superman should not represent kindness.
FWIW if you are looking at reviews for an upcoming or recently released movies, and a lot of the comments are calling it “too political” or “woke”, give it a watch and come back with your own review. Those reviews are an indicator to me that it might be somewhat thought-provoking. (or also don’t watch if you have no interest in the subject)
But I haven’t seen anyone expressing that Superman should not represent kindness.
Isn’t the take more like “You think it’s super-human to be kind?!?”
What was that post from 4chan telling aliens to fuck off, and calling them space [REDACTED]s? Magats are so fucking stupid and evil, that they would tell Superman to fuck off.
Yes, people are angry that the director talked about Superman being an immigrant (even though he has been from another planet since the character was concieved) and they are also angry about the director saying Superman represents kindness, because apparently just being nice to people is woke now
Sadly not a new issue for Superman. His backstory was even retconned in the comics for a bit to have his spaceship give birth to him so he could be born in America.
What? When? I’m not a Superman fan, but even I know he was born on Krypton or whatever his planet was, and his parents were royalty I think, and they sent him to Earth as a baby to survive, where he was raised by farmers to be a GOOD YOUNG AMERICAN WHITEBOY but then he discovers his powers and thankfully his parents were actually good people and not goddamned nazis and he goes around helping people and fighting his greatest enemy, Lex Luthor that bald guy that represents capitalism whose name is way too close to the Christian devil.
I’m seeing comments on Facebook telling me “he’s not an immigrant, he’s an alien from space”. I’m so confused as to how they don’t consider someone from a different planet to be an immigrant
So he’s an anchor baby? The reason we need to repeal birthright citizenship?
Being selfless, kind and peaceful even when powerful quite literally goes against the Western ethos and to deny it is to deny not only history but contemporary Western societies as well (from the neverending colonization of the world, native American genocide included, to the recent “empathy is a sin” take, lol).
I really don’t know how to convince people they should care about others.
I don’t know how to teach empathy.
If you can’t learn empathy, learn to spite the enemies of empathy
By exercising it at a young age in public schools.
And judging those without more harshly.
People care about their in-group. Make being human their main identity.
we can purge those filthy xenos from the galaxy!
That’s the thing, isn’t it? You either have empathy, or you are the other species. The one that can’t comprehend that there is anything wrong with them, but the world would be better off without them.
Oh fuck off would ya? Every time I test my empathy, I am basically shown to be simply unemphatetic. Doesn’t make me a monster - simply instead of feeling something is wrong, I have to think shit through.
And trust me, it’s even easier that way. Would I like someone to kick me? Maim me? Deport me? Does the net good outweight both the general consequence and the consequence for the other party? No? Then don’t fucking do it. Whether I like other party doesn’t take part in the process, which isn’t true for empathy.
Empathy can absolutely develop over time. This rhetoric is not useful. Even dumb fucking right wing pieces of shit feel empathy when their in-group is affected.
If hate can be learned so can empathy, what you’re suggesting is dehumanizing
Empathy can be developed over time by MOST people.
Also, performative empathy can be developed.
But then ALSO, anti empathy seems to be developing in society? Which is wild.
Well, I have neither empathy or sympathy for those anymore. They dehumanized me first, after all.
I’m with you brother. They have dehumanized so much they are no longer human themselves. Right wing ideology is subhuman ideology, in all forms.
I am absolutely with you.
Also people should learn the difference between empathy and sympathy, the latter not as fatiguing and difficult to develop and often more useful.
Captain Archer had some good ideas. Turns out he really doesn’t like bullies.
A few slaps on the butt (assisted by a carpet beater when the occasion demands it) will usually do it. At least that’s how my mom did it with us.
“You! Have! To be! Good! To! Your! Sister/neighbor/dog!”
(EDIT: /s if not clear)
You cannot. It’s either felt, or they’re shitspawn to be flushed.
