“If the shoe fits”… So maybe sit with your thoughts a bit longer to a logical conclusion instead of jumping to social media to dump your little thought vomit.
rick and morty , family guy all have talked about palestine and israel in some form or another. dint see them whine about that. there were quite a few other shows discussing it.
Just saw Superman a few minutes ago. I have pwned the libs by doing so.
They’re mad that they’re identifying with the genocidal, colonizing villains of the story?
The “if you’re criticizing Israel then you are an antisemitic” argument is getting really really old and fucking tired.
I have never in my life had any issues with anyone who is Jewish just because they are Jewish. Nor will I ever. But I have serious issues with the state of Israel committing war crimes on a daily basis and expecting not to be held accountable.
Well, if the shoe fits.
Wait, I thought the Jews ran Hollywood and controlled all of the media? How is it possible a movie like this exists?
That’s the radical left you’re talking about
Andor is just one such example of this.
This shit is why I joke that every work of fiction needs to end with the protagonist staring directly at the camera and explaining what the audience is supposed to take away from it, 1950’s style, because people are too stupid for subtlety. Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide “G[horman Pl]aza,” and have a character specifically emphasize the word “genocide” in a Senate chamber, but StrikeEagle784 sees all that and goes, “Wow, cool lasers” without understanding anything about anything.
Now, imagine if Andor ended with Cassian taking a seat and saying, “Hi, I’m Cassian Andor, and I hope you enjoyed the show. Were you moved by the plight of the Ghormans and inspired to fight the Empire? Well, just like how the Empire conducted a genocide against Ghorman, in real life, the US and Israel are committing genocide against the people of Gaza. That’s actually the reason why that’s in the show. Early on, I tried to turn a blind eye to injustice, but I found that ignoring the problem didn’t make it go away. This is also true in real life. In summary, the genocide in Gaza is bad and you should do something about it.”
Would that be stupid and annoying? Yes. But this is the level of art that we deserve. At least, it’s the level of art that StrikeEagle784 deserves.
Very well put. However, the last part is up to you and yours, not them. Exactly what you’re doing with this comment, do it in real life, and have others do it too. Spread the word from inside out, because that’s where the heart is. That’s where REAL change happens, the people closest to you. Get THEM on board, and make them advocates. That’s how we change.
So there’s a planet famous for producing silk where peaceful protesters are massacred in a public square and you only think of Gaza? There is definitely no place on Earth like that other than Gaza!
I’m pretty sure the Israel Gaza war kicked off with terrorists masscring people in villages and taking hostages, but it wasn’t the IDF doing that shit. Did Andor portray that at all?
I tried to find clips to see what it’s referencing some more but holy shit that show is 90% pretentious speeches. But even then it’s pretty obvious.
You are correct there are some people that need things spelled out for them or they don’t understand it. Some even resort to Qanon style numerology to try to prove weird connections between things.
Anyway, which silk producing country massacred peaceful protesters in a public square? Come on… .you can figure it out! Somewhere where vehicles were used to crush protesters? Maybe someone made a memorial and an authoritarian regime took it down… Hint
Did Andor portray that at all?
The empire depicting the Gorman resistance as evil terrorists who attacked unprovoked was indeed depicted in Andor.
See, again, people like this are exactly why we need the protagonist to look directly at the camera and explain things to them. Because the average Westerner’s worldview is so propagandized that when they see a work critiquing their own government, they assume that it must be about foreigners, because obviously we’re number one and everyone else is worse than us. If you make a US allegory look bad, they assume it couldn’t possibly be about the US. Combination of media illiteracy and a delusional, chauvinistic worldview.
I’m pretty sure the Israel Gaza war kicked off with terrorists masscring people in villages and taking hostages, but it wasn’t the IDF doing that shit. Did Andor portray that at all?
Well, the show kicks off with Andor shooting two corporate security guards, after they tried to rob him. Does that count? I mean, it’s not like Palestinian resistance to Israeli colonization and apartheid is unprovoked.
Anyway, which silk producing country massacred peaceful protesters in a public square?
The silk producing planet did not massacre peaceful protesters in a public square. The Empire, an occupying force in Ghorman, massacred Ghormans. I guess if Ghormans had massacred Imperials, your China comparison might make a certain amount of sense. But that’s the complete opposite of what happened in the show, where the “silk producing planet” was the victim of genocide, not the perpetrator.
Incidentally, Gaza is also famous for textiles, or at least, it was, before the dark times. Before the Empire.
Next you’re going to tell me that the original trilogy wasn’t about the Vietnam War
Which country do you think the people masscred in Tiananmen square were from? Were the people massacred there people known for making silk?
Why would they be referencing silk at all? Yeah they referenced silk thinking “I’m sure people will get get the connection from silk to textiles to Palestinians.”
The Ghorman massacre was referenced in Star Wars Rebels in 2017 and was referenced in the EU in the 1990s FFS. Do you really think the people making Star Wars are clairvoyant? Tianamen Square would’ve been fresh in the minds of people in the 90s I think it’s more likely referencing that event than events that hadn’t happened yet.
See, again, people like this are exactly why we need the protagonist to look directly at the camera and explain things to them.
Indeed.
Israel Gaza war kicked off
When great Britain partitioned off land and help kick out the population.
Weird how that’s also what happened in Andor…
And of course the zionist is trying to deflect it to a different situation
Sure… we’d all be better off if only the Ottoman empire continued to exist forever!
SMH
You’re ignorance of history matches ignorance for star wars lore.
Thanks for the link!
I was aware of it being referenced in 2017 in Star Wars Rebels, but I wasn’t aware it was in Legends in the 1990s.
Whataboutism
Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide “G[horman Pl]aza,” and have a character specifically emphasize the word “genocide” in a Senate chamber […]
🤯 Holy shit that’s brilliant!
Yes, Star Wars Rebels is so brilliant that they were referencing the Isreal-Hamas war in 2017.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Secret_Cargo
Y’all are sounding like qanons with your numerology now.
This is the platonic ideal of thinking history started in 2023
Ctrl+F plaza
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Oh I guess I’m going to see the new Superman now.
Plot twist: it’s all a marketing scheme to get you to watch another shitty comic book movie.
DC needs its moment, though. There are so many good characters to explore.
That being said. Free palestine ♡
Are Zionists (not the general Jewish population of the world) the biggest mass murdering babies in human civilization now adays?
Almost certainly
This complaint is such an admission. They can’t point to a single similarly between Israel and the bad guys in the movie except, “nation with technology advanced weaponry being deployed against unarmed civilians,” and they’re not even disputing that that’s an accurate depiction of what’s happening. It’s not like they’re saying, “this movie parallels Hamas propaganda.” They’re saying, “depicting colonial genocide negatively is anti-Israel.”
Hmm, sounds based, might actually watch it. I highly doubt the movie is anti-semitic but if it turns out to be I’ll be disappointed of course.
They aren’t asking that question. They know they are.
