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COCAIIIIIINNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE!!!’
COKE COKE COKE CCCCCCOOOOOOOOCCCCCAAAAAIIIIINNNNEEEEEE!!!
She don’t lie, she don’t lie, she don’t lie.
You ever tried it?
No citation needed for overt pseudo-science.
https://judbrewer.substack.com/p/the-dopamine-myth-it-doesnt-make
What does sleep or meditation have to do with dopamine?
It’s all pseudo-scientific nonsense.
I have a reservation about the Y-value for “Hobbies.” 😁
It should probably be a smear that extends the entire height of the graph. I like birding, which can be totally free, and Magic:TG, which can be a pit that consumes many thousands of dollars.
Breathwork
Meditation
Exercise
Sleep
I think we might need to add a few more axises, as we’re missing one for “potency” and one for “accessibility”. Sleep and exercise tend to require a large chunk of uninterrupted time and focus. Breathwork and meditations great for getting through a short-term spike in stress but significantly less potent than caffeine, food, or alcohol. Quality therapy is good precisely because it is supposed to be highly potent in relatively small doses. But, even more than cost, its often something a prospective patient struggles to find.
Social media and consumerism are addictive because they are so heavily immersive, which is useful when you’re attempting to block anxiety out. Meanwhile, Learning and Hobbies can require a certain degree of focus that someone staring down a panic attack has difficulty bringing to bare.
*axes
I wonder if axises will be considered correct one day, kind of like what happened with indices and indexes.
… and appendixes and appendices.
Axix? Axex?
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it’s pronounced differently
You could say that one opens up access while the while the other provides ax ease.
One be heading in a new direction, the other is just beheading.
Even a little exercise does a lot already. Just five minutes of stretching, jumping around, dancing, or push-ups does wonders. Just as with breathwork and meditation, exercise can be done several times a day. Duration can be varied as well from 1 minute to 20.
Even a little exercise does a lot already.
Anything is better than nothing. But you’re fooling yourself if you think a guy popping squats for five minutes a day is going to compare to someone with a full hour and comfortable accommodations for a yoga session. Hell, the difference between 10 min and 20 mins is really substantial in terms of how my back feels at the end of it.
from 1 minute to 20
Come on. You can barely get your pulse up inside a minute. That’s not any kind of workout.
Any kind of physical movement is good and has noticeable effects.
The comparison isn’t perfection, but to not doing anything.
If you fool yourself into thinking you can scrape by on a bare minimum, eventually you’re going to rationalize yourself out of doing anything at all.
True! Also true that some people need to scale things up over a long time, like titration of medicines. Or binge an activity to maintain it over the long haul. Etc.
You and I must have different hobbies
How is sleep considered cheap? You have to pay a monthly subscription for the right to sleep, it’s called rent.
I realised at the rate I go through shoes I have a subscription for my feet.
LOL, you do have a point 👍
How is sleep considered a source of dopamine?
A quick search yielded it helps reset and balance dopamine receptors but not that it provides any.
I had the same thought about therapy. Like who says that’s a dopamine source? Feels like they just added random activities here. How about ice skating or baking as well?
Dopamine regulation as a whole could be considered “Dopamine Responsibly”, the way I see it.
It’s lumping an incredible amount into small categories. I would bet your named activities are going under the hobby category.
This seems like a really thrown together at the last minute chart. Where’s sex? Why is learning expensive? It’s only expensive if you’re doing it specifically with a degree in mind at a college, because wikipedia is free, and there are a ton of resources out there in the form of free ‘classes’ with quite a bit of material. Fuck, even textbooks at the library are free(ish).
Processed food is cheap? Jesus, I wish. Exercise is more expensive than breathwork? Hooooow? AND HOW IS MEDITATION MORE EXPENSIVE THAN BREATHWORK?!? It’s the same damn thing with a different focus!!!
Oh my god, how is alcohol more expensive than caffeine? Have you seen how much it costs to get a good cup of joe? Coffee’s nasty, but whatever. It’s not as if three shots from a bottle of bottom shelf tequila/vodka are going to last you a lesser amount of time than the caffeine buzz. Shit, unless you’re really nursing that coffee, alcohol’s time to metabolize is going to last way longer.
helps reset and balance dopamine receptors
I mean, its sort of like asking how a tune-up for your car provides transportation.
If you’re receptors are burnt out, your ability to process dopamine is severely inhibited.
It’s not a list of sources. It’s a list of dopamine management methods.
It’s my body’s natural reaction whenever it doesn’t get enough dopamine.
Are we still driving down this highway? Screw that, we’re going to sleep.
Homeless people sleep too.
Yes they do, until they get arrested for being homeless, because sadly many police and politicians just don’t care. ☹️
When a homeless person becomes a prisoner, they sleep in prison.
Yep, on the taxpayer’s dime, unless it’s in Florida or one of the other states that mandate work in prison to pay off your own bills. Nothing is truly free.
Anyone who has had to sleep rough (or just tried going camping without a tent) knows the relative value of four walls, a mattress, and a properly temperature-controlled room.
When I was about 12, I went camping with the church youth group. First day, it rained pretty hard for a couple hours. I left the tent door open the whole time. Everything was wet the whole trip. Sleeping while surrounded by water and wet things, is very uncomfortable. So, yes, all of these things are extremely important, and EVERY person should have access to all of these things.
That’s called shelter. What you do in this shelter is your choice…
I get your point, but in many areas shelter is not an option, it’s mandatory. Get caught sleeping on a park bench or out in the woods, straight to jail…
Sleep is a necessary biological function, but you’re not allowed to do that in public or on property you don’t rent or own in most places.
Hey I don’t make the rules, if anything I don’t mind homeless people popping a tent up out in the woods (which itself is technically shelter from rain, snow, etc), as long as they’re not causing harm, committing crime, or leaving trash all around…
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Yoda: “There is another.”
Another, there is.
https://lingojam.com/EnglishtoYodaStar Wars Movie Marathon?
Needs to be another axis representing how “easy” it is to show if it requires any effort to do
I got one that is easy and actually saves you money. Foraging wild fruits. Looking at making some sloe jelly soon, ordered some cheesecloth and just waiting for that to arrive so I can strain the juice.
It’s basically the opposite of addictive. Addictive stuff is easy, because it quickly becomes a “need” not just something you theoretically want to do but can’t really be bothered right now.
Even ‘fun’ stuff like TV shows, I can ‘want’ to catch up on shows, or finish the series I was loving, but if its down to choosing and making myself get round to it, I won’t. But when suddenly I get a hyper focus on some old show and I binge forty episodes in a weekend it’s ‘easy’. What’s hard is stopping, which I guess means I’m kinda in addict mode (until I overdo it and get board and abandon the watchthrough a few episodes from the end).
Addictive and sustainable aren’t opposites. If anything, addictiveness makes some things MORE sustainable. Coffee drinking is WAY more sustainable of a habit than exercise and meditation
This whole graph is nonsense
you forgot sex
Ah yes, here’s the updated graph after plotting all the points where “sex” can go:
(You may need to be in light mode to see it better)
Depending on their situation, I think everyone would put their sex dot in a unique position, and none of them would be wrong.
It’s SO expensive, in my experience. How are people having sex multiple times a week at $1,000 a pop!? I guess it’s one of those things only for the wealthy, like everything else.
Seriously though, I had times when condoms strained my budget quite a lot
It was like: do I buy this 12-pack or do I rather eat in the next 4 days?
of course it was condoms all the way
Wait… people get dopamine from exercise?!
It’s just a meme. Literally not science at all. Not even close.
I feel it more now that I’m exercising unmedicated (against my wishes, but oh well). Anyway, I’m pretty much raw dogging everything, so when I do my little exercise routine with the dumbbell by my desk, I’m surprised at how noticeably better I feel.
People do be different.
It’s pretty hard to leave gym in worse mood than you arrived in.
My buddy dropped a weight plate on his middle finger and severed it right below the nail.
We could use any other torture method just as effectively.
Please elaborate
Anybody would be in a bad mood that they have a torture appointment and then very happy that it’s over.
If social media was so addictive why am I not on it right now?
It’s quite convenient and self-serving to not label Lemmy as social media.
You forgot drugs!
And porn. Two of the most destructive things in my life so far.
Especially when combined. You can end up in a Stimfap marathon that lasts several days without sleep.
Porn can be healthy, and can be enjoyed responsibly. But then, so can be many other things.
Healthy implies something is good for you and I don’t think porn is but yes, it can be enjoyed responsibly in a way that there’s no noticeable harm. This however doesn’t apply to me. I go off the deep end.
I’d argue that processed food (really, ultra processed food) is much more addictive and much less cheap then the chart implies
