Glad he ignored the negativity and succeeded. Personally I don’t see the appeal of this type of game though. But, different strokes and all that.
I honestly couldn’t figure the game out…I’m glad people enjoy it, but I’m too smooth brained to have gotten anywhere
I have a poor sense of direction and just get lost a LOT.
If you get stuck or don’t know where to go next, you can ask the mayor. He will give you a hint for the next location.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s not to listen to jaded assholes online.
I get the feeling a lot of gamedev communities are full of people who haven’t built anything anyone wants to buy, and so get super bitter towards anyone wanting to try, or anyone who manages to make something that actually picks up steam and becomes successful.
They’re the sorts of people that will go “X Game is objectively bad!” and then shill their own game which is also bad.
The same happens in art and animation communities, where something will become popular and people will disguise their feeling of “Why can’t I get that?!” with “pfft, it’s objectively bad!”.
statistically speaking not every game will be a commercial success.
Most Indie gamedev communities are super supportive of each other, or at least that’s been my experience from TIGSource to Itch.io days.
Speaking as someone who knows a little about game development from formal education in the matter
99% of people on the internet critizing game development have not the faintest idea what they are talking about.
A quick, translation guide (joke):
“I understand that might not be easy but” - would be super easy but there is a list of good reasons why we shouldn’t
“Seems like it would be easy too…” - its a pointlessly impossible endeavour to spend any time on this.
Also with gamedev there is the additional “I have this great idea but I don’t know how to code” community too.
I am sure you are right, but r/gaming is a general gaming board. It’s not really focused on game creation/development.
Some takeaways here:
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Don’t give up on yourself or your dreams.
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Keep a steady income going while you work on those things, because then your work can be your art for yourself instead of desperately trying to make something sellable before you run out of cash, and treating yourself to a latté feels like you just blew money on a steak dinner using funds that aren’t coming back. That stuff is scary.
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Game Dev / Gamer reddit has some gem, but on the whole it is full of very, very bitter people. They got that “everything you do is gonna suck and I’m totally saying this because I care” treatment, and they pass it right along. You’re better off finding /starting a local club.
- Of course, ignore #2 maybe if you’re one of those self-help book authors who is “so tired of their megacorporate 6-figure income after 10 years” and they have zero debt and saved most of that as a runway and can live on 45k a year. Sure, take the plunge and find your soul or whatever lol.
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reddit specifically has also become a cesspool of hateful, miserable, morons.
And bots.
sometimes at the same time.
The internet really tends to be cruel. I used to open up about myself in some online spaces, but it only made me feel worse. Now I only talk about non personal stuff
I will listen and not judge, especially if you don’t have people in real life you can open up to.
Thank you. I feel like way beyond sociability and repairability these days, though.
This is called survivorship bias
I wonder if the opposite principle also has a name.
The first comment imo. is fair. It says that the market is saturated, so it is difficult to succeed, but it doesn’t rule it out by default.
The other two comments are just plain hostile and ended up being wrong. Lets call it dead troll bias or something?
Not really. It should be obvious that not every indie game will be super successful. This is just proof that some random reddit comments saying a game looks boring from an early trailer don’t mean shit, because basically everything will have those.
Right so it’s not really proof of anything.
Well it’s kind of proof that the opinions of haters don’t meant shit. If both good/successful games and bad/unsuccessful games have them and they don’t affect the outcome at all, they have no value.
Might as well give up before even trying! Wtf is this defeatist attitude.
Oh come on. It’s a perfectly valid point. For everyone who has a successful game there are probably thousands of people who don’t. It does no one any good at all to suggest that all you have to do is believe in yourself. You also have to make a good product, and generally just be lucky.
Plenty of people rightfully don’t go into video game development because they cannot afford to not earn their money back, if you are lucky enough to be able to risk it, then absolutely go for it, but if you were living paycheck to paycheck it unfortunately isn’t a reasonable ambition.
Not every game will be successful, on this we fully agree. But for every successful product there will be effort that needs to be expended. There will be struggles and failures along the way and criticisms will abound. The point that I take from the post is that it’s not worth giving into the negativity and let that detract from your efforts. “Don’t take the negativity too seriously” is a perfectly valid message, against which the “survivorship bias” criticism is poorly levied.
The takeaway here isn’t and shouldn’t be quit your job and pursue your dreams in all scenarios.
WTF is this feelgood fascism?
What has fascism got to do with any of this?
No need to get technical. It is a colloquial term to describe the "think positive’ evangelism which implies that failure is due to just not thinking positive enough.
Shitting on hard work and effort of indie devs and then wondering why the gaming ladscape is filled with souless corporate slop.
Yep, same day they’ll complain about Ubisoft and then pre-order the next Assassin’s Creed
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Careful now, wouldn’t want to rock the boat, how else will I seek validation
Do not consider online judgements at all.
Do your thing. Pursue your passions. Do it.I’ve found online feedback useful. You just have to be careful about where you get it and take it with a grain of salt. A very large one.
If someone is being mean and negative it’s fine to ignore. If someone is giving constructive feedback that’s negative it’s more worthwhile
If someone gives you tips, advice, or constructive feedback: there’s a good chance they’re worth listening to.
Hostile, critical with no other feedback : almost certainly garbage.
The first comment in the image, to my mind, wasn’t actually bad. It didn’t tell them not to do something and it wasn’t critical. It just said they the category was very saturated and they should temper their expectations.
And, you’re also entirely correct that you should take even the feedback worth listening to with a grain of salt, or maybe a shaker. :) There’s a thousand and one ways to do anything, and it can be difficult to convey the difference between “this is how I would do it” and “this is how you should do it”.
(Doing software code reviews is a skill that can help teach the difference, and not everyone learns it)
But my passion is clubbing baby seals…
Goddamn, that’s an ancient image. 😂
If that is what you love, please club as many seals as it makes you happy.
Don’t let your dreams be dreams.
This is such a weird collection of comments.
I think a few of those people are on here now still moaning about the game being popular.
Except if you’re MAGA. Then I hope you do spiral to the point that you get locked up in the crazy house.
“Democrat voters are more empathetic” lmao
“If you don’t tolerate my intolerance then you’re intolerate too!” Amirite?
my empathy doesn’t stretch to people who voted against my basic rights as a human
Braindead take.
The bar is on the floor if you earnestly want to make that comparison. I don’t see empathetic Republicans anywhere. The closest have been here on Lemmy and even then y’all are sussy.
this would be on r/agedlikemilk
You mean /c/agedlikemilk?
I read it as caged like milk and I leave it there
Hey I heard Cage the Milk is dropping their new album Lactose Obliteration soon!
Why c/ and not l/?
C for community
That makes sense, I like that, thanks for letting me know.
But then why is it r/ and not s/?
Post it! I wonder if those folks ate their words or stand by them or what.
This is the plot of Sk8er Boi by Avril Lavigne.
